Amnesty

[Marge1234]

From the chair of Amnesty Via Twitter… I can’t find the original tweet so perhaps they’ve deleted but it’s appears real.
Depressingly one sided and cruel to someone who’s been driven out of their job.

What a bloody shame that a once crucial organisation that helped so many prisoners of conscience and had a big impact on discussions about torture and human rights has become such a petty, small-minded vehicle for personal vendettas and point-scoring.

It’s a major loss to prisoners of conscience. But undoubtedly welcomed by tyrants and torturers worldwide.

A lot of these people have backgrounds in something like international development.

My husband did a minor in philosophy and did a number of cross-over classes with IDS students, mainly stuff to do with ethics. His overwhelming experience was that they were completely incapable of understanding philosophical arguments, applying different paradigms or principles, and that they struggled significantly in those classes.

These are the people who end up going into the charitable sector to run these kinds of organizations.

I can't believe that photo. It sticks out from the others like a sore thumb.

That photo is unprofessional, to say the least.

@Marge1234

From the chair of Amnesty Via Twitter… I can’t find the original tweet so perhaps they’ve deleted but it’s appears real. Depressingly one sided and cruel to someone who’s been driven out of their job.

Is this referring to Stock?

'Sen is passionate about glitter, community building, and social justice'
Sen is passionate about misogyny, witch hunting, and silencing women

"Passionate about glitter". Grow the fuck up, it's not your Instagram, it's a large charity that's supposed to be helping people facing unjust imprisonment, torture and execution.

Glitter? What the fuck?

Exactly, Eresh. Talk about tone deaf, especially combined with the 'comedy' photo. That's just absurd, and actually fucking insulting to the people an organisation like Amnesty is supposed to be helping.

@Thingybob

According to Linkedin, he's only been CEO since September but has been a board director for over 3 years where "In this governance role, I help shape policy and strategy for Amnesty International UK"

Well that explains a lot

Explains the Amnesty shame that was Amnesty placards wielded at the Filia conference and messages like ‘suck my duck cunt’ displayed for women and children attending, including those who are survivors of sexual assault.

Thoroughly unprofessional to attack someone like that when you hold such a role.

It makes me sick at heart. And since Boris and co have thrown Nazneen Zaghari-Ratcliffe to the wolves, Amnesty seem her only hope

Dick, not duck..

@Thingybob

According to Linkedin, he's only been CEO since September but has been a board director for over 3 years where "In this governance role, I help shape policy and strategy for Amnesty International UK"

WHY and HOW did two leading charity and lobby groups HIRE the likes of Senthorun (Sen) Raj and Ruth Hunt to dismantle all their previous good work? Seriously how? The steps RH took dismantled SW in a matter of weeks, it's horrifying.

So glad my ex cancelled Amnesty.

Obviously they neither know nor care how much credibility they lose by mocking a woman who was abused, failed by her union and hounded from a job. Or maybe they do know and the cheers from the woke bro contingent make up for established members leaving. No doubt we were 'the wrong sort of members' just like Kathleen Stock was exercising the 'wrong kind of free speech' for their dainty ears.

Amnesty tried to back pedal from the Filia debacle but Senthorun’s stupid attack on KS gives the lie to their disingenuous ‘we didn’t know how our placards would be used’ bullshit.

This is what happened, for anyone not aware www.google.com/amp/s/filia.org.uk/latest-news/2021/10/26/filia-statement-on-amnesty-international-uk%3ffbclid=IwAR1WmIXFlqKHw63F6yKpqdnrUiY5GRAMC_TBnAyyFju-XtBjScavcURbwXU&format=amp

Things that I am aware amnesty have done over last few years-

Ireland arm had draft document which stated sex was a human right. Hooha. Draft vanished. Main amnesty after ages made statement that it not general amnesty view. Which went off about other things in a shut up don't criticise we're beyond reproach way.

The opponent to Putin in Russia imprisoned for political reasons after being poisoned. Amnesty said he was NOT a prisoner of conscience because of some of his views.
Massive huge issue. Their whole remit was about challenging etc anyone who had their human rights to free trial etc breached.
Whatever his views. The moment they said they were not interested. They threw away the absolute core fundamental of that org.
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56181084

I feel like there's something else as well that I thought no fuck them. Can't remember.

Was it wanting to legalise prostitution? Cos they called for that too 😡 and they backed self ID and encouraged members/supporters to complete the GRA consultation in favour of it 😡😡 Who gives a shit about women, eh?

Glitter? Not very ecological; glitter’s a huge microplastics sea polluter and extremely bad for wildlife. Also, its main commercial use is in the car industry in car spray paint, just for a nice extra polluting fossil fuels touch. Not so much for social justice there.

But it’s not like we are shocked any more by rank hypocrisy amongst the woke left, no? It’s practically the engine that keeps it all going.

Even the Grauniad doesn’t like glitter!

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/22/glitter-environment-microplastics-hazard

Mind you, I see an ideal usage for one of those glitter postal bombs

This is really shit! Amnesty has been one of my favourite charities for years. I have given donations to their work and have left them a bequest in my Will. I’m really upset to read that this is happening.

From a global context laws criminalising prostitution result in police victimising, exploiting those working as prostitutes which is awful. Other problems too.

I doubt they want to legalise it, it's always decrim which is pushed. Which is telling.

Of course decrim full stop ie including punters etc is a massively polarised issue.

But trying to stop prostitutes being sexually exploited threatened etc etc is a good thing imo.

Complex area. Esp globally.

I think Amnesty's line on it is that in some countries, it would be better to decriminalize it, rather than have the punishing laws that are there now. And not all countries may be in a position to manage it in another way. Something like the Nordic model might not be something every police force could manage. And the social attitudes in many places might not be amenable.

Which is fair maybe as far as it goes. But it shows the problem with a group like Amnesty trying to tell countries what their social rights policies should like like, from an outside position. There is so much difference between what is possible in different places, and what the values of the people are too.

Under the old approach of focus on political prisoners, the idea was to begin to create the conditions under which liberal democracy, or at least some authentic, grass-roots type of governance, could thrive. The most basic of those being, allow the people to have some kind of voice, to begin to talk about things.