Self ID and gender identity

[Kendodd]

Sex categories are legally only male and female right?
Do they/them, non binary carry any legal meaning? Is it just people being polite?
And do trans identities have any legal meanings to what they are?
If it's all about identity, then can I, as a biological woman, identify as a transwoman (for example) and is that then what I would be?

AFAIK, 'non binary' and 'gender' are terms that have no legal definition. 'Gender' is not interchangeable with 'sex', as it seems to be about presentation and how someone feels.
I'm not sure if pretending you are trans is a crime. If you received some benefit, you could perhaps be charged with deception?

Sex categories are legally only male and female right?

Can you clarify the context?

Are you talking about sex discrimination, pensions, sex crimes, etc?

Do they/them, non binary carry any legal meaning? Is it just people being polite?
And do trans identities have any legal meanings to what they are?

They are philosophical beliefs, so people are free to live in any gender identity they choose and are protected from discrimination and harassment, etc. That's protected by law, just like religious people are protected so they can live lives of devotion according to their faiths without harassment or discrimination.

Trans/non-binary people don't have separate HMRC rules or anything like that, though (assuming Stonewall hasn't already got in there with their red pen...someone should probably check).

I reckon you, as a biological woman, could identify as a transwoman, and be completely consistent with the Stonewall "logic":

1. If the regressive stereotypes (aka "gender") usually associated with your sex don't sit comfortably with you, then you are transgender, or at least under the trans "umbrella".
2. Yet you know you are a woman.
3. Thus, you are a transwoman.

The only ruling on this of which I am aware is the employment tribunal Taylor v Land Rover Jaguar Ltd.

This is an interesting take on what happened from a woke chambers:

www.lambchambers.co.uk/latest-news/taylor-v-jaguar-land-rover-limited/

Other commentators have different opinions, notbaly that this was about bullying, but got mistakenly segued into novel interpretations of a section of the EA 2010.

Land Rover jaguar won't appeal - as a poster said on another thread, why would they?

Two points spring to mind.

1. Were any members of the tribunal trained by Gendered Intelligence or Stonewall, at public expense?

1. If allowing long stretches of bullying 'for gender non-conformity' at work is so egregious, then employment tribunals must find in favour of bullied lesbian and gender non-conforming female academics.

If you don't feel you have a gender, you'd also fall under Stonewall's definition of trans by virtue of being "agender".

Obviously this only applies if you subscribe to gender ideology, and while "playing them at their own game" is tempting, I think it's a slippery slope to feed into such a regressive ideology, not least because if you identify into their ideology and say you're trans, Stonewall will claim to speak for you, and it bolsters their movement with higher numbers of "trans" people.

@TrevorFountain
Skimmed that article (will read properly later)
Bullying and harrassment is awful regardless of the reason and this person was right to take JLR to court. Also, it said they were an engineer, so wouldn't they just have overalls on anyway?
Anyone remember that women sacked from her job in the city for not wearing heels and LOST her court case for unfair dismissal? Presumably she could just identify as non binary and not have to wear them?

My head hurts with this stuff.

Why can't we just have male a female and everyone can wear whatever they want?

Anyone remember that women sacked from her job in the city for not wearing heels and LOST her court case for unfair dismissal?

That woman features in this excellent Magdalen Berns video, as a contrast to the cringetastic video being responding to:

[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PPV83fgJx0 FI
RE: “I asked my Corporate Job if I could Wear the Men's Uniform”]]

@Kendodd

My head hurts with this stuff.

Why can't we just have male a female and everyone can wear whatever they want?

Because the right of men to deny reality and be validated on the back of fantasy is more important than women's sex based rights?