Another America one- Abigail shrier and Tom cotton.

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abigailshrier.substack.com/p/could-the-gop-become-the-party-of
She asks him this question - could the GOP become the party of women and goes along with his answer that he thinks it already is. Obviously I have a lot of respect for abigail shrier but how can she not mention that you can’t be the party of women if you want to take away women and girls rights over their own body, by banning abortion?? How is this not the elephant in the room?

One battle at a time?
Supreme Court may support existing abortion rights.

It’s a pretty core issue, and if you throw your support to the republicans because of women’s rights then you will turn around and suddenly find women dying like that one in Poland.

And not even to ask the question is letting that happen- remind these people not to take women for granted, not to treat them like vessels without rights or you will not be the women’s party and never can be with that policy.

Of course. This is the problem with right-wingers like Shrier. And the argument of bodily autonomy for all by TRAs is a strong one, the best they have in fact.

Quite, @PermanentTemporary. It’s not very comforting.

Obviously I have a lot of respect for abigail shrier but how can she not mention that you can’t be the party of women if you want to take away women and girls rights over their own body, by banning abortion?? How is this not the elephant in the room?

I think you have to recognise that many women in America are anti-abortion and that the political landscape there is very different to the political landscape in the UK.

People from different faiths and political backgrounds sometimes form alliances on a particular issue, e.g. the death penalty, despite opposing views on other issues e.g. abortion.

However, I think the problem here is that the Republican Party aren't acting in good faith and are just trying to find a wedge issue, and that if you are a gender critical feminist, many Republicans fundamentally believe that sex dictates how you should behave and present.

Absolutely @merrymouse re good faith. I subscribe to the wsj and unsubscribing has been on my to do list since Mother’s Day there, where they ran a piece for Mother’s Day saying mum guilt happens because you really should be home with your small children and it’s your subconscious telling you that. If you’re a woman, not if you’re a dad obviously. For Mother’s Day. Not balanced by a few articles on successful businesswomen juggling work and parenting either, just this. A paper for the business world telling its women subscribers they don’t belong. I was horrified.

(I seem to have to phone the us in business hours to unsubscribe, hence hasn’t happened yet! I will but am crap at that kind of admin)

Abortion rights are such a divisive topic in US politics but, given the religious make-up of America, it would be interesting to know how many Republicans are really against them, how many Democrats are really for them, and, despite the button-pressing usage of the issue, how many voters are actually motivated by it. I know it would motivate me at least to not vote Republican, but I suspect it's one of those flashpoint issues where candidates have to placate hardcore party members without regard to appealing to the general public.

Not just candidates. Government. Abortion rights are under threat in many states, not just Texas.

The women who voted for Trump and will likely vote for him again in 2024 do so because he makes statements they agree with, especially on abortion. Their focus is on what they see as protecting children from murder by a judicial system focused on male economics and not on the value of motherhood and childhood. It's not hard to understand in those terms, although I viscerally disagree with that perspective.