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Marion Millar Complainant

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Sexnotgender · 31/10/2021 20:07

Apparently Rhiannon bloody Spear. What the fuck?

Marion Millar Complainant
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SomepeopleareTERFSgetoverit · 31/10/2021 22:25

@Enough4me

As someone who heard parts of the original complaint, was it true that these two complainents said some ribbons looked threatening and scared them?
One of the most outrageous things about this whole situation was that Marion was not told the charges against her until very late in the day, I believe it wasn’t until her first appearance in court. How can a person decide whether to plead guilty or not guilty if you don’t know what you are accused of?

It has still not been clearly reported anywhere what exactly they were. Hopefully if the case is formally abandoned (at present it is just stayed) then the full detail will come out.

From the reports in the public domain I understand one of the complaint was about the photo of the suffragette ribbon, which mentioned one of the complainants’ place of work, so he was able to allege that it was a threat.

The other charges seemed to relate to the tweets Marion made about one of the police officers who came to arrest her and suggested that her children could be taken into care - i.e things that happened after the initial complaint was made. I wasn’t aware that naming a police officer was against the law, and I hope that we will hear the full story as soon as the law permits.

nauticant · 31/10/2021 22:31

Nationalism + gender identity ideology makes for an especially toxic combination. Absolute moral certainty with anyone not completely on board being fair game.

FlyingOink · 01/11/2021 06:26

Wow, she sounds toxic as fuck.

JustcameoutGC · 01/11/2021 07:14

This is totally fucked up. Someone desperately needs to peer into these murky waters and figure out what is going on.

Sexnotgender · 01/11/2021 07:15

@FlyingOink

Wow, she sounds toxic as fuck.
The whole party is, from the top down.
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ScreamingMeMeSawUs · 01/11/2021 08:48

@KimikosNightmare

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/86f4c26e-bc13-11eb-8144-d3653cd81e51?shareToken=2ebbfb978b22d163ffa6729e02f0527b

People like Spear are one of the many reasons I have never supported and never will support separatism.

I'm not Scottish, but if I were, I think the toxicity of many in the SNP would worry really worry me. Seems like a dictatorship waiting to happen Sad
MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/11/2021 10:17

Wasn't it an SNP MP who was photographed smiling with protesters and banners outside the LGB Alliance conference? Or am I thinking of a another group of lesbians / gay men that the SNP object to?

nauticant · 01/11/2021 11:10

It was Kirsty Blackman. She equivocates over the nature of her support:

twitter.com/KirstySNP/status/1451124058393915393

Babdoc · 01/11/2021 11:57

Lovely ratio in the replies to Blackman, though! Wonder if it will make her think? Assuming she has two neurones to rub together. Which is a big ask for an SNP member, I know…

HairyPotter · 01/11/2021 12:20

Does anyone have a link to the BBC article naming DP and RS as the complainers in Marion’s case please.

nauticant · 01/11/2021 12:26

You'll find the relevant link in this tweet:

twitter.com/hightreebud/status/1453831635133243395

HairyPotter · 01/11/2021 13:20

[quote nauticant]You'll find the relevant link in this tweet:

twitter.com/hightreebud/status/1453831635133243395[/quote]
Thank you Flowers

334bu · 01/11/2021 13:25

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0010w2z
From 12.10

nancywhisky · 01/11/2021 13:40

Kirsty Blackman's researcher...

Marion Millar Complainant
ScreamingMeMeSawUs · 01/11/2021 13:52

@nancywhisky

Kirsty Blackman's researcher...
Oh that's who he is, is it? He's also allegedly doxed GC SNP members.
KimikosNightmare · 01/11/2021 14:19

@nancywhisky

Kirsty Blackman's researcher...
Jonathan Kiehlmann. The Speaker of the Commons revoked his pass.

He retweeted that 1 day after the murder of Sir David Amess.

There seems to have been no comments from Sturgeon or Blackman about his behaviour.

FlyingOink · 01/11/2021 18:26

The Speaker of the Commons revoked his pass.
That's pretty serious

HatefulHaberdashery · 01/11/2021 18:54

Kirsty Blackman also described the LGB Alliance conference as a "hate conference". Hardly befitting conduct of a sitting MP to castigate the UK's only charity formed on the basis of sexual orientation.
It's astounding that a sitting MP can label a charity based on protected characteristics a hate organisation. Imagine if she was behaving the same way to a religious group or a disability charity - hope the Speaker and Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards look into her behaviour, as I'm sure it breaches Nolan Principles, and it doesn't look like the SNP are capable of ensuring their MP's, Councillors, or indeed, Researchers live up to standards that don't bring Parliament into disrepute.

Lovelyricepudding · 01/11/2021 20:05

@FlyingOink

The Speaker of the Commons revoked his pass. That's pretty serious
It is. But still the SNP haven't done anything about him.
Wildfart · 01/11/2021 20:20

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Sexnotgender · 01/11/2021 20:25

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FlyingOink · 01/11/2021 20:31

But still the SNP haven't done anything about him.

I wish I could say I was shocked, I'm disappointed that they continue to be so crass, but I'm no longer shocked. They act like they are untouchable.
In fact I'd quite like to see an entire Private Eye special edition on the SNP. I think it would certainly fill the Rotten Boroughs section at least.

MargaritaPie · 01/11/2021 23:00

@Thefartingsofaofdenmarkstreet

Yes, it was mentioned on BBC Scotland yesterday or the day before, that the two complainants were David Paisley and Rhiannon Spear. Hope they are pleased with themselves now.
And a lesbian police officer.
2319inprogress · 01/11/2021 23:23

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