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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The BBC are still calling it ‘Girls Night In’ 👏🏻

54 replies

Blessex · 27/10/2021 07:01

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59054772

Seems girls aren’t cancelled after all when the adults get involved.

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Helleofabore · 27/10/2021 08:08

Maybe this will help others who don’t understand the context of OP.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4382322-Girls-night-in-Campaign-targeted-for-not-being-inclusive

Helleofabore · 27/10/2021 08:11

ViceLikeBlip

It is the other people under that big umbrella that are upset.

That they could start their own movement seems to always escape them. It is like a group of kids who were always included in things to make them feel special have grown up to insist the same treatment as adults.

There is absolutely no need for this campaign to be inclusive. It seems that sanity has prevailed as the beeb is reporting it under the original name.

SunflowersInTheShade · 27/10/2021 08:15

It was plain garden variety whataboutery -.
How you dare you talk about girls, what about the .....

Really good if the BBC (of all things) is still calling them girls.

geojellyfish · 27/10/2021 08:19

334BU My post was very much tongue in cheek.

It was an attempt to demonstrate the ridiculous arguments put forward to discredit yesterday's 'controversial' BBC news story.

Funnily enough, I did see a few similar objections when people were sharing the Girls Night In stuff on FB last week. The difference being it came from decidedly unwoke NAMALT side and was met with derision by those who are now objecting to the BBC covering the issue of lesbian coercion. They don't see the hypocrisy.

KittenKong · 27/10/2021 08:31

ITV news is calling it night in and keeps saying ‘people’ staying in etc, downplaying the ‘women’ aspect.

Blessex · 27/10/2021 08:51

@KittenKong ITV still under the spell then. They will wake up soon.

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EishetChayil · 27/10/2021 08:55

Of course they're pro sex work. Because it's fine for other women to have to put themselves in danger having sex with men for money. No inkling that this might be part of the problem. If men think they can buy a woman's body, they're more likely to assume they can use it for free.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 27/10/2021 08:58

[quote Blessex]@Tabasco007 100% correct. And now the girls are falling over themselves to say that it’s not just girls drinks that are being spiked. It’s boys too! Our poor daughters![/quote]
Ive seen this a lot in the reporting

I don’t doubt that some men are being targeted but i think the vast vast vast majority are female

Its actually really pissing me off…

JellySaurus · 27/10/2021 09:02

Did you miss this bit?

The BBC are still calling it ‘Girls Night In’ 👏🏻
EdgeOfTheSky · 27/10/2021 09:02

@Tabasco007 They were given a hard time by Trans Rights Activists.

Helleofabore · 27/10/2021 09:08

There are men and women being targeted for drink spiking. Absolutely!

But this movement is for women to highlight the issue for women. That what is being asked will benefit everyone is a bonus.

Groups of people are still allowed to have a campaign for themselves, or, have we moved into the era that no group can have a movement just for them? Better cancel every single ‘x day’ or ‘x month’ then.

BigFatLiar · 27/10/2021 09:15

[quote EdgeOfTheSky]@Tabasco007 They were given a hard time by Trans Rights Activists.[/quote]
Why would activists be giving them a hard time don't they identify as 'girls'?

MrsCardone · 27/10/2021 09:23

They can have their own 'Trans Night In', they don't have to hijack every fucking thing we have to call our own. Especially when it addresses such an awful thing happening to girls at the moment.

KittenKong · 27/10/2021 09:35

How many women have been spiked? How many men? How many trans persons?

Reptar · 27/10/2021 09:43

Out of 2650 reported incidents;
3/4 of victims are female, 1/4 are males. I assume trans victims would be recorded as their preferred gender.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-51021314

AnyOldPrion · 27/10/2021 09:50

Glad to see this from the BBC. These young women need to see that asserting boundaries and not being pressured into positions that weaken their important message is acceptable. The BBC is finally doing its job, which is great to see.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 27/10/2021 10:31

Why would activists be giving them a hard time don't they identify as 'girls'

I honestly believe that there is a massive difference between the majority of trans people and the majority of TRA

I think most TRA are like those people who say you can’t say Christmas because of the muslims and the muslims are all 😳

KittenKong · 27/10/2021 10:45

Yup. Everything is scanned for potential ‘offence’ and an opportunity to bellow demands (and throw insults).

EyesOpening · 27/10/2021 10:58

I spoke to my DD who is it Uni, last night and she was telling me about it, she called it Girls Night In.

LizzieSiddal · 27/10/2021 11:02

Just heard BBC R2 news report using “Girls Night In”, which was very pleasing.

Lammysaurus · 27/10/2021 11:25

I knew what you meant, OP!

Slight tangent but a male friend ended up in hospital after drinking a drink dosed with a very high concentration of rohypnol. Police thought the target was probably his then-girlfriend as they'd both been drinking the same thing all night and could easily have switched glasses, but nothing was ever proven. If that was the case, she was incredibly lucky too because if it knocked a 6'2" former rugby player on his arse, I don't even want to think about what it would have done to someone far smaller.

So yes, men can be impacted and sometimes do get targeted - in other parts of the world similar drugs are used to knock out targets for purposes of theft, kidnapping, organ harvesting, etc. But do we really have to say so up front every single time? Can we not even acknowledge when something disproportionately negatively impacts women and girls?

EdgeOfTheSky · 27/10/2021 11:43

@RufustheBadgeringReindeer

Why would activists be giving them a hard time don't they identify as 'girls'

I honestly believe that there is a massive difference between the majority of trans people and the majority of TRA

I think most TRA are like those people who say you can’t say Christmas because of the muslims and the muslims are all 😳

I suspect this is true.

BUT the TRAs have so much power because the word ‘transphobe’ is unleashed at anyone who demurs, and ‘moderate’ trans folk and all allies fear that more than anything.

Everyone saw what happened to JKR, people taken to court, losing their jobs….

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 27/10/2021 12:35

Can’t argue with that at all edge

Livelifeinthebuslane · 27/10/2021 12:45

Geo I got it Grin

The Times also reported it as Girls' Night In this morning.

Dinosaurhearmeroar · 27/10/2021 16:50

So is The Times!