Margaret Atwood

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twitter.com/MargaretAtwood/status/1450429768067846145?t=8q-A8MlvzZsx6pt4Vu1_LA&s=19

Has retweeted an article from the Toronto Star "why can't we say woman anymore" and bloody hell are they coming for the latest witch burning in the comments!

Ranging from disappointment to the usual sweary abuse. I thought oh how long till the capitulation begins, turns out I didn't have to wait long!

She's following it up with retweets about 'we can say people when it's accurate and inclusive' and then defending the article because the writer isn't "a terf"???

Not really sure what she's trying to achieve here, anyone?

[quote ItsAllGoingToBeFine]I think the TRAs are really making her think. She just posted this on her twitter feed:

"Trans rights? Yes. Toxic, in-your-face activism? No"
www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-trans-rights-radical-activism-1.6220106[/quote]
Wow. I'm impressed

just came on to post about the same article by trans woman Jessica Triff about the abuse to Attwood, Rowling, Navratilova.

""Trans woman" no longer means what it did. It no longer refers exclusively to an individual who has gone through therapy, hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgeries. This presents a greater risk to women in certain areas and it is reasonable to discuss these issues and come up with solutions and safeguards to prevent abuses and minimize risks to women's safety and infringements on their rights."

My friend just came home from some months in Canada and said there is pressure to not refer to your own children as he or she until they make the decision as teenagers. I think Atwood, coming from this environment, pulling back from the gender 'movement' may prove to be as important as JKR.

@bellinisurge

According to the responses to her latest tweet, you only get change by ruffling feathers. That's true. I remember MLK going to court to insist women wax his balls or criticising little girls who stare at penis flashers in women's changing rooms. Or Emmeline Pankhurst changing her campaign for votes for women to include men.

This is the perfect riposte. I've seen this argument about ruffling feathers before and it makes me so furious. Pankhurst et al damaged property but they didn't go round nailing rats to rape crisis centres or screaming "suck my dick you fucking ..." at people.

Good on Margaret Atwood for not caving into the pressure so far. Seems like she's doing a bit of reading behind the scenes and is edging towards the 'moderate trans voices' in an effort to distance herself from the mob.

Gender zealots insist their movement is a 'good' one. I've never known any actually progressive movement that keeps losing their staunchest supporters. 😂

@LastSummerHere

My friend just came home from some months in Canada and said there is pressure to not refer to your own children as he or she until they make the decision as teenagers. I think Atwood, coming from this environment, pulling back from the gender 'movement' may prove to be as important as JKR.

Yep, for sure. This is going to have a huge impact in Canada.

The Twitter reaction is fairly predictable, a fair amount of outrage, people telling her she's too old, she should shut up, f off, etc.

Plus some support.

She's deviated from the catechism, I'd say this can only go one way now.

Welcome to the pit of vipers, Margaret.

Wow Atwood is really going for it. It was very disappointing that she took the view she previously did BUT it is also brave to reconsider and change your mind even though doing so will bring opprobrium...

@ferretface

Wow Atwood is really going for it. It was very disappointing that she took the view she previously did BUT it is also brave to reconsider and change your mind even though doing so will bring opprobrium...

Yes, very brave and very admirable. It isn't easy to go against the genderists at the best of times as an anonymous no one, but to do it as a name and knowing cultists treat 'traitors' like people deserving to be burnt at the stake, is especially courageous.

@ArabellaScott I'm not on Twitter otherwise I'd be supporting...I really hope she gets and sees the support. Even when she was being a dick to JKR, I did always have a glimmer of hope for her as I figured anyone who wrote the way she did about women, couldn't be that ignorant.

As ever, it's the insane overreach that does it for the ideology. The abuse, the misogyny, the narcissism, the targeting of individuals and on and on.
I'm pleased that she's spotted it, but wonder how long she'll continue to hold out?

Yesssss Margaret is peaking.

My friend just came home from some months in Canada and said there is pressure to not refer to your own children as he or she until they make the decision as teenagers.

I am happy to report that this really isn't the case. I live in Woke Central, and apart from a handful of people who have "they-bes", I have never come across this. I don't know where your friend was, but you cannot get more trans-friendly than the place where I live.

It's interesting seeing the transition in her thinking play out in real time as it matches the journey a lot of people have been on.

however.... some good advice given to David Bridle (Editor of Boyz who got cancelled and then set up lesbian and gay news) was "retract your apology to the TRAs and stick your flag in the GC camp - you'll make more friends and the TRAs will NEVER EVER forgive you.

@ferretface

Wow Atwood is really going for it. It was very disappointing that she took the view she previously did BUT it is also brave to reconsider and change your mind even though doing so will bring opprobrium...

Remember how hard it was to realise that the dominant narrative about gender was not all sparkly pastel rainbows?

And how it felt like everything you thought you knew was wrong?

I can't imagine how it would be, living in Canada, where a father was jailed for refusing to support his daughter's transition, and speaking out about it.

www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/bc-father-arrested-held-in-jail-for-repeatedly-violating-court-orders-over-childs-gender-transition-therapy/ar-BB1eGHJu

@ferretface

Wow Atwood is really going for it. It was very disappointing that she took the view she previously did BUT it is also brave to reconsider and change your mind even though doing so will bring opprobrium...

Atwood is a cooler but one with a massive following and profile. She can potentially make a substantial contribution to the possibility of having a public discussion and alerting people to what is happening.

People will listen to her in a way that they'd never countenance even considering the words of someone known to be GC.

There's no valorisation for being premature anti-fascist or anti-Nazi but we have to be 'Eyes on the prize' as to the outcomes that we want.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4366709-Abigail-Shrier-Marci-Bowers-critical-of-puberty-blockers?msgid=111375587

@teezletangler

Yesssss Margaret is peaking.

My friend just came home from some months in Canada and said there is pressure to not refer to your own children as he or she until they make the decision as teenagers.

I am happy to report that this really isn't the case. I live in Woke Central, and apart from a handful of people who have "they-bes", I have never come across this. I don't know where your friend was, but you cannot get more trans-friendly than the place where I live.

Phew....she was staying with an uncle in Toronto and he told her this. She hadn't the first notion about gender crap until she went to Canada and the first time she saw me she was telling me this completely stunned. I wasn't sure if it was just her uncle being hyperbolic or if it was true.....so I just slagged off Trudeau to be on the safe side.😂

And of course Canada is home to Vancouver Rape Relief, a shelter that has received horrendous threats and vandalism, as well as being defunded after a campaign by Morgane Oger.

www.vancouverisawesome.com/courier-archive/news/vancouver-rape-relief-targeted-with-vandalism-threats-over-transgender-controversy-3106045

Meghan Murphy held an event for women in Toronto a few years back.

It was met with aggressive, violent protest.

Here is Canadian nurse Amy Hamm protesting about the inclusion of males in women's prisons.

With everything that has gone on of late, we are reaching the stage where GC concerns can be admitted to publicly, by respectable people.
Thank goodness.

The BBC doc.
Marci Bowers
The awful Loudon County Case
Dave Chapelle tantrums
Now M Atwood.

Good. All we ever wanted was a proper grown up discussion of where swinging fists end and noses begin

Amy Hamm is currently under investigation by the BC College of Nurses and Midwives for her views.

thepostmillennial.com/nurse-investigation-gender-critical/

Also in Canada this week:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/trans-friendly-counter-protesters-drown-out-protester-at-westboro-school/wcm/fa74939c-504d-43cb-9476-a9ecb2bf0c4d/amp/

This father is going around the country, peacefully protesting gender identity ideology and medical transition of children. He was mobbed by a large counter protest of absolute loons (including local politicians!) and assaulted. The only good news in Canada is that the police have not been captured in the same way that they have in the UK, and they're still actually doing their jobs. They have given support and protection to Meghan Murphy and others such as this man.

Noted earlier on the thread, there will be a piece about the Tavistock and Keira Bell on TV tonight, on our "second" national network. For the Canadian MSM to cover this is huge. I think there is a slight but subtle shift going on, but most people in Canada aren't aware of any of these issues.

She's well on her way

Some delightful re-tweets
mobile.twitter.com/PinkUmbrella12/status/1451969781142335494

And this has been posted in reply to the "radical acts are required" replies - I think it's quite brilliant!
m.youtube.com/watch?v=QUxU7s19UXI&feature=youtu.be

twitter search: margaretatwood [slur]

Lots of people think calling her names will win her over.

They are punishing her. It's so abusive. It makes me utterly sick the way they treat women - and then claim that it's because "she made me do it". By having opinions and a mind of her own? Fuck that.

You can report any tweets directed at her + fword/cword/bword as harassment.