Statement of solidarity with Prof Kathleen Stock

[VillKrill]

Apologies if this has already been shared - wanted to post the link to this statement in case any academics/students/alumni would like to add their support:

docs.google.com/document/d/11ZNAyfkeaPPzLd5PyEvM2NTV4SBphOWr-ueofTrtLu4/edit?usp=sharing

[Igneococcus]

Times:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/272a04d6-2c0f-11ec-a1c0-649c1183346f?shareToken=366b2e901bc9843c54c3fa1c2e7f9bbb

[HollowTalk]

Signed. So heartening to see so many people using their own names, even though there's a chance things will be difficult for them as a result.

[littlbrowndog]

This one is a lot of professor s and docs

openlettertosussexfromukphilosophers.wordpress.com/

[JaninaDuszejko]

@Cailin66

Signed, and will get others to sign. Also sent Stock an email of support last week and she kindly replied.

[email protected].

I gave my full name etc. Because I'm sure she gets hate mail.

I think when JK Rowling first came out as gender critical we decided cards and letters would be a good way to get to her because the TRAs would be much less likely than us middle aged women to write a proper letter and she might turn off her social media and email if she's getting a lot of abuse.

[2319inprogress]

Done/bump

[Onyernelly]

@JaninaDuszejko

I sent cards to JK publishers and received lovely replies that my dd has taken ownership of and displays proudly in her bedroom.

[jhuizinga]

I've signed. It's good to see so many signatures, many of which are from fellow academics.

[LooksGood]

I don't really worry about my job if I expressed GC views at work. My academic specialism isn't relevant, our HR dept is cautious, and actually my UCU rep has replied to yesterday's flounce with a gentle offer to help me if I ever need it anyway. She didn't seem to know much about the whole issue, actually.

I still don't want to come out as GC because I worry about the impact this would have on transgender students. I don't want them to stop existing, or to reject or disrespect their choices. But that's the message they are getting around GC academics, isn't it. So I don't think they have reason to feel less safe around me - but I do think they're likely to feel that way and I'd hate that.

Conversely, students rarely show much interest in my religious beliefs, though they could draw conclusions, rightly or wrongly, from my ethnicity. I'd never ask directly about theirs, but very occasionally they'll offer that information, in the classroom. Even more rarely, they'll ask me, and I'll usually offer a bland partial response.

I'd be fairly sure that most of my classes feature some combination of Christians and Muslims from lapsed to devout, as well as atheists. Students clearly make the same assumption. None of us seems to feel less safe for it.

This is such a toxic situation.

[IamAporcupine]

Did you all have to request access to sign it?

[AlfonsoTheDinosaur]

I signed.

[girafferafferaffe]

I'm frightened to sign in my full name. I feel that I must though.

[IamAporcupine]

@IamAporcupine

Did you all have to request access to sign it?

Argh - still can't sign!

[BlackLambAndGreyFalcon]

I work in a university. I did sign the letter, but unfortunately I wasn't brave enough to give my full name and I also put the insituton affiliation as a former student of X university where I did my undergraduate degree, rather than a member of staff at Y University. Cowardly perhaps, but neither the university nor my union would have my back if any complaint was made and I'm PS staff so can't even claim to have academic freedom.

[GameofPhones]

Signed.

[Keyboardkaterina]

Tony, sadly I wish I could sign it but have recently started a new job at a woke university and feel I cannot risk it.

[Keyboardkaterina]

Also see that quite a few alumni from my university employer have signed it and only 2 staff. From a workforce of thousands. Very sad.

[girafferafferaffe]

I can see why people aren't though. A public list of people who will be abused online, jobs threatened, doxxed etc. frightening.

I work somewhere that Is particularly woke.

[Awiltu]

@BlackLambAndGreyFalcon, I did exactly the same as you when signing, for the same reasons.

[TheCountessofFitzdotterel]

I have signed. There are a number of different institutions I could have given that I have been part of so I chose the one that didn’t seem to have anybody at all from it signing in the whole 1200 odd list. Whereas others had quite a few. I wonder what this says about differing cultures, climate of fear etc.
One place I know quite well had absolutely loads and people who work there do tend to talk positively about its collegiality. I think that is quite telling.

[Telesilla]

Signed. I’m lucky. Nothing to lose but acquaintances.

[Davros]

@DisappearingGirl

I've signed it.

PS anyone know why the AIBU thread "Support Kathleen Stock", which was encouraging people to buy her Material Girls book, has been taken down?

I was just looking for it but it's gone 💨

[fiveleftfeet]

Where it says "role" does it mean your job, or your role as listed on the form (e.g. "alumni")?

[Rhannion]

You can sign if you have been a student, teacher or lecturer anywhere, not just the UK and at any time.

[PeriChristmas]

@DisappearingGirl

I've signed it.

PS anyone know why the AIBU thread "Support Kathleen Stock", which was encouraging people to buy her Material Girls book, has been taken down?

@DisappearingGirl

a copy of Kathleen Stock's book to Sussex Uni Library www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4373650-send-a-copy-of-kathleen-stock-s-book-to-sussex-uni-library

[TheCountessofFitzdotterel]

Nina Power has signed.

I am pretty impressed with the philosophers’ open letter as well as the general one. I think they are showing up well as a discipline.