Netflix FIRES Employees Who stormed Meetings Over Dave Chappell Comedy Special

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Looks like things are heating up at Netflix over the Dave Chappell special. Good to see management refusing to cancel on demand and standing up to woke employees for once.

@MarshmallowSwede

I’m pretty sure women of colour are concerned about racism on top of being mistreated for being women. Intersectionality should be a concern for white women too as it involves acknowledging women of colours additional issues they fave in employment and medical care etc.. not only worried about trans women being included in women’s issues.

You just said all oppressed groups should join up, but I mention that a group of privileged white men are trying to convince us women that they aren’t running a scam and somehow I’m not promoting us all joining up… sure Jan.

I don’t care to turn it into the oppression Olympics. You missed my point.. my point is the to trying to do a bait and switch by claiming to be inclusive when in reality it’s just the usual suspects, and that women should be aware that they are basically saying that they should be priority over the many unresolved issues faced by WOC. If we claim to want intersectionality then we should call out the bullshit.. but by calling out the bullshit somehow I’m wrong? Oh ok.. you tell me the right way to do it then!

I don't agree with intersectionality as a concept at all. So we won't find any common ground... but just pointing out that you are highlighting the problems of intersectionality without even realizing it... yet you still support it.

Racism is a problem, sexism is a problem, both are massive problems, poverty is a problem, like you mentioned education and language inequalities are problems, there are lots more. They are all issues on their own right. Although which issues are larger or smaller all depend on where and when you are talking about.

When we start fighting about who is more oppressed where and when we are putting the focus on the wrong thing.

We don't need to make this a race to the bottom where only the most oppressed is allowed support and given a platform.

All of them deserve support, all of them are issues that need to be tackled.

MTF trans invading women's safe spaces is an issue but we don't need a concept like intersectionality to say it's an issue. When you use something like intersectionality what you end up with is a situation where a black trans poverty poorly educated MTF trans is allowed in a women's shelter because the majority of the women are white and you can make a case that white women are not as oppressed in the UK (While they may be elsewhere).

"’m pretty sure women of colour are concerned about racism on top of being mistreated for being women. Intersectionality should be a concern for white women too as it involves acknowledging women of colours additional issues they fave in employment and medical care etc.. not only worried about trans women being included in women’s issues."

Isn't that the problem though? Modern day liberal/woke feminism has turned feminism into "let's solve all the world's problems, actual female problems last though, please", exactly because of intersectionality.

I thought it was brilliant and so tragic at the same time. Its a homage to a transwoman who commited suicide days after defending Chapelle re. 'punching down on trans' on twitter

I thought the ending was beautiful - what Dave will say to Daphnes daughter at age 21 - "Young lady, I knew your father and he was a wonderful woman"

Bless your soul Daphne

interesting hot takes on intersectionality. My point was that these people are as DC said “punching down”.

I’m with @MarshmallowSwede, I’m a privileged middle class white woman and those who’ve had to confront racial issues face a different world. I would never want to not acknowledge that.

@LemonSwan

I thought it was brilliant and so tragic at the same time. Its a homage to a transwoman who commited suicide days after defending Chapelle re. 'punching down on trans' on twitter

I thought the ending was beautiful - what Dave will say to Daphnes daughter at age 21 - "Young lady, I knew your father and he was a wonderful woman"

Bless your soul Daphne

Agree 100. Well said. The humanity of real live person relationships -like Dave's and Daphne's - show us that the insanity of the online TRAs is inhuman.

There are always going to be people who already have power who will use any levers of power they can find to gain more. Not just people who already have advantage either.

One of the things that has fascinated me as people have been looking back in recent years to criticize the political and social institutions of the past for creating a social hierarchy is that many seem to see that as a thing that would not happen if we had the right kinds of institutions.

What they don't seem to see clearly is that if you change the way power works through new institutions, people will still use them to seek personal power. Even if you try and design them to advantage the disadvantaged. The shape of your new society may be different, but your new institutions will function as ways to consolidate power because that's what they are for, it's what makes them useful and effective in human society.

Which is why if you scratch the surface, the new society always turns out to look a lot like the old one.

The humanity of real live person relationships

This seems to be one of the big points Chappelle is making. It's not so much that's he's 'uncancellable' but that he is secure enough in himself to know what he stands for and won't backtrack. He's already said he couldn't give a stuff about Twitter and the media, his interest is in real life conversation, and there's something incredibly refreshing about not having to give them agency isn't there?

In some ways JKR is in the same boat -unapologetic and cannot be shut up despite all attempts - although you can see the very stark differences in the treatment they receive because of it.

So the trans woman was invited to the meeting afterall and didn't barge in...

If that's your argument DisgustedofManchester, you should include some evidence.

We are years past the stage of "if a trans activist says X then we have to take it as true".

*I don't agree with intersectionality as a concept at all. So we won't find any common ground... but just pointing out that you are highlighting the problems of intersectionality without even realizing it... yet you still support it.

Racism is a problem, sexism is a problem, both are massive problems, poverty is a problem, like you mentioned education and language inequalities are problems, there are lots more. They are all issues on their own right. Although which issues are larger or smaller all depend on where and when you are talking about*

This is not what intersectionality is about though. It is what social media thinks it is about but not what Kimberle Crenshaw meant.

"intersectionality" has turned into an umbrella term that carries with it "if you question [our use of] this concept then you're a bigot".

As it's been used in social media it's been rendered largely meaningless beyond a concept of Oppression Olympics.

I agree @nauticant & @YetAnotherSpartacus

Intersectionality as a concept in grounded in law. It has been misunderstood and misapplied by so many who do not understand the real meaning….. therefore rendering it worthless.

@Shelddd

I think they were just suspended unless it's change since then.

But ya of course come after execs with your woke crap and it's not going to end well for you. You can get away with it elsewhere.

If you watched the special you would know that part of the reason why Chappelle won't get cancelled is how he was smart to frame it. He went after trans activism not trans people first of all. He attacked the activism aspect which I think is what most people have a problem with and it's all the M to F trans activism that is so angry and wants to destroy the world. But on top of that he didn't frame it personally he said trans activists are trying to cancel black people, and that's why he won't get cancelled... He was smart to frame it that way, because Netflix might be okay with cancelling Chappelle but they absolutely don't want to be seen cancelling black people or black culture (rightfully so).

So good for him, he was incredibly smart in what he said and how he framed it.

And also because he's a bloke, let's be honest. If everything about this were identical except he was a woman, I expect the reaction would look a lot different.

Oh yes Exceptional. There's an uproar but I haven't as yet seen any threat to his safety as with JKR, or even Prof Stock who now has been told by police not to go to any public event where her presence has been advertised. I doubt we'll see Chappelle cancelling shows in a similar manner. This tells you everything.