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Pregnancy Charity BPAS rejects pressure to stop using the word "woman"

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Toomie · 09/10/2021 10:28

Just seen this on Fairplay For Women's Facebook feed.

Article in the Telegraph apparently

Feminist campaigners call move 'hugely significant' as BPAS prioritises best interests of 'majority of those using our services'

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/10/08/pregnancy-charity-defies-trans-activists-keeping-word-women/

I can't do share tokens I'm afraid but it looks very clear, unambiguous and positive.

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RoseisMadder · 09/10/2021 11:03

Was about to post this!
Here’s the text:

A pregnancy charity has rejected pressure to stop using the word “women” on the basis that it would make services more trans-friendly.

The British Pregnancy Advice Service (BPAS) is believed to be the first major organisation to publicly state that it will not remove gendered language, arguing that it is harder to fight against restrictions based on sexism if they “cannot clearly articulate” that it is “predominantly” women impacted.

It was described as a “hugely significant” move by feminist campaigners after major organisations, government departments and NHS Trusts have all dropped terms including mother and women from their policies.

Those changes came after pressure from groups including controversial LGBT charity Stonewall, which has advised organisations that they should remove all gendered language in order to be more inclusive.

Setting out its “values, vision and ambitions” for the next two years, BPAS said that its services were “inclusive” and that it was building “specialist pathways to meet individual needs”.

However, it refused to remove the word women from “campaigning, advocacy and general client materials” in part because it was how the “majority of those using our services see themselves”.

“We will also continue to use the word “women” over “people” so we can continue to campaign effectively for reproductive rights,” the charity said.

“Women’s reproductive healthcare and choices remain regulated and restricted in the way they are precisely because they are women’s issues, sadly still bound up with heavily gendered and judgmental approaches to female sexuality, ideals of motherhood and expectations of maternal sacrifice, and the need to control women’s bodies and choices.

‘We cannot – and will not – shy away from this’
“If we cannot clearly articulate that it is predominantly women, rather than people at large, who are affected by this, we will find it much harder to dismantle a framework that today is still underpinned by sexism.”

The move was welcomed by women’s rights campaigners, including birthing expert Milli Hill, who was attacked for questioning the use of the term “birthing people”.

She said that the move by BPAS felt “hugely significant”, adding: “I hope this is the beginning of an overdue re-centering of women in maternity, infant feeding, menstruation and reproductive healthcare.

Dr Nicola Williams, director of Fair Play for Women, also welcomed the decision, telling The Telegraph: “In political communications, women’s rights are the correct words to use.

“It is about balancing the needs of everyone in society rather than focusing on one small group and I think BPAS have got that balance right because in this instance the benefits of using the word woman outweighs the negative effects of using it.”

Health organisations have faced criticism for deleting gendered language, including Cancer Research which removed the word "women" from its smear test screening campaign and an NHS Trust which advised midwives to consider using terms such as “chestfeeding”.

Clare Murphy, the chief executive of BPAS, said that it had received a “hugely positive response” that showed “that this is not a controversial position… offering inclusive services is in no way incompatible with retaining the term ‘woman’.

She added: “From choice in childbirth to access to emergency contraception, our reproductive rights are undermined precisely because these are issues that affect women. We cannot – and will not – shy away from this as we continue to fight for a future where everyone can exercise reproductive autonomy and women are empowered to make their own decisions around pregnancy.”

MattDamon · 09/10/2021 11:18

Clare Murphy, the chief executive of BPAS, said that it had received a “hugely positive response” that showed “that this is not a controversial position… offering inclusive services is in no way incompatible with retaining the term ‘woman’.

The dirty secret Stonewall and friends try so desperately to hide.

Babdoc · 09/10/2021 11:39

Excellent news. High time this demeaning erasure of women was stopped in its tracks.
I know we have seen many false dawns, but I think the fight back really is gathering momentum now. People are waking up to what is happening, and are horrified by it.

ComDummings · 09/10/2021 11:41

Fantastic!

Glassofshloer · 09/10/2021 11:47

Brilliant! Not just that they’ve refused to change their language, but that they’ve articulated why so perfectly and clearly.

merrymouse · 09/10/2021 11:53

“Women’s reproductive healthcare and choices remain regulated and restricted in the way they are precisely because they are women’s issues, sadly still bound up with heavily gendered and judgmental approaches to female sexuality, ideals of motherhood and expectations of maternal sacrifice, and the need to control women’s bodies and choices.

‘We cannot – and will not – shy away from this’
“If we cannot clearly articulate that it is predominantly women, rather than people at large, who are affected by this, we will find it much harder to dismantle a framework that today is still underpinned by sexism.”

Thank you, thank you, thank you BPAS.

teawamutu · 09/10/2021 11:54

Wonderful stuff. Not going to use the usual metaphor but it does feel like some useful momentum is building.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/10/2021 11:56

Good news but (as is so often asked) how did we get here? And how have we ended up with toxic trolls being able to smear women as being transphobic for just mentioning the word woman, let alone all the associated sex based language?

MistyFrequencies · 09/10/2021 11:58

Thank goodness. And well articulated rationale too.

RoseisMadder · 09/10/2021 12:18

I don’t know how anyone can read that and declare it transphobic. It’s informed, measured and fair. But we shall see!
Fingers crossed that this, along with the Beeb leaving Stonewall, will be enough for other organisations to speak the truth.
Talking of the Beeb, JKR was on R2 this morning promoting her new book. Was so lovely to hear her

Dancingbea · 09/10/2021 12:24

Sad it’s gone so far that this was necessary.

WhereYouLeftIt · 09/10/2021 13:20

"Those changes came after pressure from groups including controversial LGBT charity Stonewall, which has advised organisations that they should remove all gendered language in order to be more inclusive."

It's a small point, but significant to me that the term 'controversial' is now being applied to Stonewall in mainstream media.

ArtemesiaK · 09/10/2021 13:27

So good to hear....

Piapiano · 09/10/2021 13:30

Yay! I hope this is covered more widely in the media.

nothingcomestonothing · 09/10/2021 14:05

I've emailed BPAS to thank them for naming and centring adult human females. Shouldn't need doing, but here we are.

CrossPurposes · 09/10/2021 14:07

I've donated to them and thanked them for helping women.

WeeBisom · 09/10/2021 14:22

I saw an advert on Facebook for some period product, and the tag line said 'for people who bleed, made by people who bleed' (which sounds creepy and weird.) I was very heartened to see loads of women in the comments outright laughing and being angry at the term 'people who bleed'. I really think women are getting fed up with being called such disgusting names.

RedDogsBeg · 09/10/2021 14:24

This on the back of the hospital article and all the horror of that is good news.

Also well done to the Telegraph not only for the articles but also for correctly naming Stonewall as the controversial LGBT Charity.

CrumpetShaw · 09/10/2021 15:54

So happy about this. Really hoping that as they have articulated this so well, and not shied away from the difficulties of it, that other organisations might follow suit 🤞🏻🤞🏻

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 09/10/2021 18:38

@WeeBisom

I saw an advert on Facebook for some period product, and the tag line said 'for people who bleed, made by people who bleed' (which sounds creepy and weird.) I was very heartened to see loads of women in the comments outright laughing and being angry at the term 'people who bleed'. I really think women are getting fed up with being called such disgusting names.
We’ll, as Alice pointed out, only women bleed. So there is that.
ArabellaScott · 09/10/2021 19:06

Oh this is so sad and ridiculous. All the work there is to be done and we are having to fight to be able to use the word 'woman '. Its so risible and so bloody STUPID.

I mean, well done BPAS, but Jesus. I cannot be grateful for the crumbs of absurdity.

Taswama · 09/10/2021 19:32

I've also written to bpas to thank them and will be increasing my monthly DD.

Gumbomambo · 09/10/2021 19:38

I’ve written. Women are so marginalised through pregnancy and often butchered through birth. Thank you.

Alekto · 09/10/2021 20:18

BPAS have tweeted that they've had a positive response. I'm sure every bit of positive feedback to MPs, companies, public services, etc on this issue goes a long way. If they're brave enough to take a woman friendly stance I think it's really important to thank them.

Otoh, Laurie Penny said she thought Kathleen Stock's book was reasonable, got piled on and consequently retracted. Hmm

Pregnancy Charity BPAS rejects pressure to stop using the word "woman"
Glassofshloer · 09/10/2021 20:36

Fantastic. Coupled with Sussex Uni, this has been a good couple of days. Explicit support for women, no having to read between the lines or cling on to what they didnt say, etc.

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