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From Glinner's Substack: Exclusive: David Lammy Lied

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TedImgoingmad · 06/10/2021 08:17

This is important, not to have another pop at Lammy as such, but because every time the encroachments on women's rights is brought up, all politicians of his ilk try to dismiss it as a non issue that bothers a few bigots only, and, that the ordinary women in their constituents don't care, never mind wider society.. And as someone not involved in party politics, you (I) sometimes do think, "Is it just me?" I mean, I had a right old go at some LibDem canvassers at my doorstep last election, but am I the exceptional loon they all laugh about in the pub later? Or one more woman bringing up an issue to which they have no answer. Lammy would have me be the former, but this interviewee says the latter.

Lammy Lied

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PronounssheRa · 06/10/2021 09:06

Met with women party activists who spoke with him for three hours, detailing their concerns about the Labour party’s support for Self-ID

If this is true, then Lammy deserves all the criticism he gets, because he, a member of Parliament lied on national radio

This is why I don't trust Labour, we know women are raising this with the party, there is a Labour Women’s Declaration ffs.

drhf · 06/10/2021 09:28

If David Lammy has been caught in a straightforward lie here, the press absolutely need to pick it up.

"Julia", a Labour activist, is saying that Mr Lammy visited a constituent's house with her during the 2019 general election campaign, and that the constituent was in tears about a comment made by Dawn Butler. If the constituent were to come forward to confirm that Lammy was present, that would be significant.

Graham Linehan suggests the constituent might have been upset about Dawn Butler's remark that ""a child is born without sex", but that was on 18 Feb 2020, which doesn't fit. In the article text, Julia never agrees with Graham that this was the statement which upset the constituent.

As Shadow Equalities Secretary, Dawn Butler made several remarks about trans issues during the 2019 campaign which could have caused comment on the doorstep. The issue became particularly heated in the party after the Labour manifesto was published on 21 Nov 2019 including a commitment to retaining the single-sex exemption in the Equality Act. Ms Butler tweeted on 22 Nov in support of self ID that "“UK Labour will reform the GRA to introduce self-declaration for trans people. We will remove outdated language from the Equalities Act. And there is no way spaces will be permitted to discriminate against trans people. That is illegal and it will stay illegal.”

Met with women party activists who spoke with him for three hours, detailing their concerns about the Labour party’s support for Self-ID
That part seems quite easy to verify, but since the group was of activists, it doesn't directly pertain to Mr Lammy's comment. He never denied that self-ID is an issue within the party; he only claimed that it doesn't come up "on the doorstep" i.e. in comments from the general public outside party activist circles.

Tesla73 · 06/10/2021 09:28

Isnt he a presenter on LBC too? does he do phone in? just wondering

TheHomeEdit · 06/10/2021 09:31

It certainly came up on our doorstep at a previous election. We’ve not been canvased since. Dh thinks we are on some list to avoid now!

Cerebelle · 06/10/2021 09:34

Politician lies. Water is wet. Pope is a Catholic.

Jaysmith71 · 06/10/2021 10:49

@Tesla73

Isnt he a presenter on LBC too? does he do phone in? just wondering
He is and does. But he begins every show by telling you what you are going to ask him about today.
Tesla73 · 06/10/2021 10:54

I see - but its possible someone could call up on the subject he specifies but halfway through the call ask about the doorstep questions?

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