Today I had to sign a statutory declaration...

[Whosresponsible]

...to state that I did not have a gender identity. Yup, this is where the madness has got us.

I'm a regulated professional and as part of my yearly sign up a new question appeared, asking me to declare my gender identity. It had male, female, other and something else I can't remember (I was getting irritable). I could not move on unless I chose an option. After reading the guidance, and their reason for wanting the information (it helps to identify us you see, if there are two of us with the same name for example...puzzled), I realised that the only way to move forward with the process was to create a statutory declaration and attach it. So I did. I declared my gender identity as "None" after some consideration as to what describes me best. I'm happy with that description as it is truthful to my authentic self who most definitely does not have a gender identity.

And no, it didn't ask me what my sex was.

That is awesome. Well done.

You, not the form (obviously)

discrimination against a believe that is lawful to hold!

Oh.my.god. That is bonkers. (the form - not you, of course)
If that's the future, it's chilling.

I think that might be the way to go forward OP. It seems to me that gender identities are not able to be questioned at present and so to have a gender identity of none seems entirely reasonable and within the bounds of the current expectation. I will be doing that when I next fill in a form. Thanks for the clear and obvious solution.

Well done. I'm also a 'none'

I completed a survey today and got really pissed off with the “what gender do you identify with” question. I put ‘other’ but really wish I’d been able to put ‘none’. Usually I stop doing surveys when the gender not sex identifier comes up but I really needed to let this company know how crap they were about another matter so gritted my teeth and ticked the least identifying option.

Why can’t they just ask are you male; female; other? Or is ‘othering’ a hate crime?

I've done this a few times. I was really pressed by a spa - I said "I am a woman, but I do not identify as a woman"
They were so confused. But they did a lovely massage and we all seemed to manage ok.

Well done. DH has a similar problem. There seems to be an annual Stonewall questionaire. First time he thought hard. He is male but does not really identify as 'a man', a John Wayne sort of man. So he too decided that he did not have a gender identity. Unfortunately this unlocked a whole series of additional questions relating to his experience as a non binary.

Give him his due despite this he continues to give the same, truthful, answer each year. And his woke employer is presumably including him in their LGBT+++ statistics.

That is my problem with putting other without being able to specify they think you are part of the alphabet. The question should be do you have a gender identity with the option to say none.

Yes, I did not want to put other without being able to qualify it in some way, which is why I had to do the statutory declaration. This was too important to fudge.

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I completed a survey today and got really pissed off with the “what gender do you identify with” question. I put ‘other’ but really wish I’d been able to put ‘none’. Usually I stop doing surveys when the gender not sex identifier comes up but I really needed to let this company know how crap they were about another matter so gritted my teeth and ticked the least identifying option.

Why can’t they just ask are you male; female; other? Or is ‘othering’ a hate crime?

If there is a "other" option with a freeform text box, I have been known to chose that and type "G%TFDGHT^%((JN GFRR" (or whatever) in the box. This pleases me greatly. (AIBU?)

I've thought about using "other" on these, but I hesitate because I worry they will interpret it as some sort of non-binary type thing, as if I think it's the same as male and female, and then use answers like that to justify their lists.

Often I suspect the people who make these forms don't really understand that sex and gender are supposedly totally different.

Well done, OP. That's the kind of pedantry I can get behind!

I agree, ticking any of the boxes like 'other' suggests one is tacitly supporting an ideology that most people barely understand. It's manipulative and dishonest to try to pressure people into declaring anything like 'gender identity' if they don't subscribe to those theories.