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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Played the fool - blog post expressing how one woman has experienced being LGB when T trumps all

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SnoopyLights · 04/10/2021 20:23

I've been trying to share this blog post for a couple of days, but I think it may have had some key words in it that meant I couldn't post the content, just the link. It's by a woman reflecting on how she, as a lesbian, has observed the T taking over the LGB from her perspective.

I found it to be really well written, and actually very true to how I feel about how quickly all this seems to have happened. The reality of it all from an L in the LGB perspective has been good to have. I really admire her courage in writing this.

This is the link

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 04/10/2021 20:37

That’s an excellent piece of writing!!

LastSummerHere · 04/10/2021 20:45

Very interesting essay OP, thanks for sharing. The only part that irked was the 'TS' Clara saying the AGP was 'not like us' when speaking to the female author. Neither is Clara. He too is a man and he has no right nor special claim to the colonising of women, no more than any other man.

Artichokeleaves · 04/10/2021 20:50

An extremely well written and explained article, and many older LGB people will relate to so much of it. The lesbian spaces I knew and that welcomed and supported me when I was in my teens and twenties are long gone now, no longer havens for female people.

Helmetbymidnight · 04/10/2021 20:53

thats a really powerful piece, thanks for linking op.

NancyDrawed · 04/10/2021 20:57

@LastSummerHere

Very interesting essay OP, thanks for sharing. The only part that irked was the 'TS' Clara saying the AGP was 'not like us' when speaking to the female author. Neither is Clara. He too is a man and he has no right nor special claim to the colonising of women, no more than any other man.
I see your point, but read that more as 'I don't want to be linked to a TRA type' and the 'not like us' as meaning not like the trans who are more like Clara rather than Clara including themself in the category 'woman'

The author refers to Chloe as 'he' and Clara as 'she' which I thought was quite interesting.

Thanks for sharing Snoopy I might send that to a couple of people who are still at the be kind stage of understanding.

CreepingDeath · 04/10/2021 21:11

Thanks, that was brilliant. And illustrates how much pressure young people are under to go along with this and not question it.

Like she says in the article, they are being used. They are pawns in something they don't yet understand.

ColourMagic · 04/10/2021 21:40

That is an excellent and powerful piece, insightful (eventually), a compelling read. So many years of the writers life spent in cognitive dissonance. Thanks for posting it OP. Now just have to wait for FB to come back so I can circulate if further.

SnoopyLights · 04/10/2021 22:01

I think it might be really good for sharing to people who are still at the 'be kind' stage without much real thought into what being kind means for women and girls.

I felt able to relate in many ways to the slow realisation the author had, that she and her friends were not just disappearing but being disappeared from their spaces, although I peaked years ago and very suddenly, over women's prisons. The realisation happened very quickly for me, but even just those few years ago I couldn't see us falling this far down the rabbit hole. I hope that writing like this helps to make more people realise just what is going on.

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WorkingItOutAsIGo · 04/10/2021 22:34

A stunning piece which encapsulated so much I had sensed but not articulated.

Melroses · 04/10/2021 22:55

That really is excellent. It really takes you through each layer.

Sue also wrote 'The Elephant in the Room' which was a lightbulb moment for me.

suggestionsplease1 · 04/10/2021 22:56

🤣😂🤣

Well, absolute kudos for managing to hit every villainous trans stereotype possible, that is quite a work of fiction!

I can just see the tick list criteria being studiously and assiduously worked through 🤣😂🤣

But it will be lapped up here, unsurprisingly.

Sometimes I read threads here and think people talk sense at times.

And then I read this bollocks and come to my senses.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 04/10/2021 23:20

The sense of betrayal and the unintended consequences of personal complicity/coercision is palpable.

What lies beyond that cliff is a realization that you have been used. You have been used by something greater than yourself, to push medication on children. You have been used by straight men to participate in their sexual fetish without your consent. Your entire community, rendered a jerk-off prop for some straight man over night, and you were told that objecting was ‘transphobic’. You have been used to spread homophobia beyond your comprehension, to take part in the destruction of your own community, and you were told this was right and good.

FireFlyBoogaloo · 04/10/2021 23:49

"The author refers to Chloe as 'he' and Clara as 'she' which I thought was quite interesting."

I don't think it's that surprising, though, if you consider identity to be more of a sort of agreement you come to with other individuals rather than something you get to completely control yourself. Like, I try to be a nice person, and many people see me that way, but some people think I'm a total bitch. If I say "I'm a nice person" the people who think I'm a bitch aren't going to just nod and agree and forevermore refer to me as a nice person regardless of their real opinion on the matter.

And for most people - I would say for the vast, vast majority of people - using preferred pronouns is a way to be nice/polite. So if Clara from the essay is a trans woman who understands boundaries, doesn't try to impose herself on anyone else, etc, then the author probably still has this desire to be nice/polite. But when Chloe comes along with no respect for anyone else's boundaries, wanting to impose rather than negotiate their identity with the people they meet, the author's desire to be nice/polite goes away and along with it go the preferred pronouns.

I think you could probably count the number of people who literally, really believe TWAW on your fingers. So preferred pronouns are always an exercise in either politeness or fear.

Datun · 05/10/2021 00:17

Excellent piece of writing. You can feel her horror unfold.

SnoopyLights · 05/10/2021 08:13

@Melroses

That really is excellent. It really takes you through each layer.

Sue also wrote 'The Elephant in the Room' which was a lightbulb moment for me.

I will have to look at that piece as well, thank you.
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Artichokeleaves · 05/10/2021 08:54

@suggestionsplease1

🤣😂🤣

Well, absolute kudos for managing to hit every villainous trans stereotype possible, that is quite a work of fiction!

I can just see the tick list criteria being studiously and assiduously worked through 🤣😂🤣

But it will be lapped up here, unsurprisingly.

Sometimes I read threads here and think people talk sense at times.

And then I read this bollocks and come to my senses.

A lesbian woman, sharing her personal experience and story, is 'bollocks'.

Thank you for sharing yet again the utter disrespect and disdain for women's experience and voices that is central to supporting this belief system, and smearing is the only way to shut out anything not conforming to the narrative.

ComprehensiveTea · 05/10/2021 12:03

That is one hell of a strong and beautiful piece of writing!
Thanks for sharing.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/10/2021 12:20

Fantastic piece! An expression of lived experience that is rarely allowed to speak.

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