Predators are a women's problem - Camilla Long - Sunday Times

[MrsOvertonsWindow]

A blistering piece in the Sunday Times today by Camilla Long about Couzens and the Met (cites the inept David Lammy for good measure).
Very powerful. Share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c002a4d6-239c-11ec-891d-7de285af3d9c?shareToken=00ff21cba997cec39820c525a103374e

Great stuff from Camilla. She doesn't hold back.

she's bloody furious

David Lammy basically said he’d heard a rumour that a cervix is something “you can have following hormone treatment and all the rest”. You just thought: has he ever been near one? And these are the people who make our laws

what an inadequate that man is

That is a very good article, if depressing

Thanks for the share token

Excellent piece. I think the Met, and the police in general, are hugely underestimating the level of anger and mistrust that women have for them. Labour too. More and more people who previously haven’t followed the sex and gender debate are realising that a party that does not know what a woman is - as Labour have been clearly demonstrating in recent days - cannot possibly be capable of prioritising the tackling of sex based violence against women and girls.

It's a very well written article. Snappy, to the point, and fuming.

Telling civilians to “wave down a bus” is basically mad. It suggests not only that all police are untrustworthy, but also that it’s fine to ignore them or run from an arrest, when it is not. Is that really their response, after six months of thinking? Run away?

I'm still aghast at what they were thinking! This is real life we're talking about, not some bloody film where the director can just yell action and cut!

There needs to be a panel of women who understand what it's like to live in a world dominated by men, to whom these public bodies can go to for advice, before they sign off on nonsensical shite info like that.

There needs to be a panel of women who understand what it's like to live in a world dominated by men, to whom these public bodies can go to for advice, before they sign off on nonsensical shite info like that

But not made up of inclusive “women”. Only biologically born females understand what it’s like to not be able to opt in or opt out of sex based violence and how utterly exhausting it is to be a woman in this society.

Interesting (and depressing) that the two highest rated comments have both been deleted as "violating the policy".

So even on an article about women's safety, women aren't allowed to raise concerns and make suggestions.

@TurquoiseBaubles

Interesting (and depressing) that the two highest rated comments have both been deleted as "violating the policy".

So even on an article about women's safety, women aren't allowed to raise concerns and make suggestions.

I suspect the top rated comments are targeted for reporting by monitors in the same way that this board is targeted. I had a comment deleted last week on a Times article. There was no obvious way in which it broke guidelines, but it did get a lot of upvotes.

Very very good article.

The Sunday Times was overall very good today.

There were a number of blistering articles focusing on women’s safety in light of Sarah Everard’s murder. One focused on the 79 women who have been murdered since Sarah’s to several articles focusing on the culture of misogyny within the police.

I had the Scottish edition which also had details of failures in Police Scotland.

Hopefully, the message is getting through to the politicians that women are angry not just at the senseless murder of Sarah but the woeful response by the police with both the editorial of the Sunday Times and Observer pointing out the ridiculousness of telling women to try and stop a bus, etc, and their failure to have anything better to offer women for our protection.

Pretty damming.

Agreed Selkiesarereal
Along with the Mail covering this in great detail with a number of highly critical articles, there's a massive realisation by the public of the consequences of all this with the labour party being shown up in all its glorious misogyny.

I think so and it has taken such an awful event to shine light on the dangers faced by women. Maybe things will change, hopefully at least in the police.

It seems like the papers (especially the Times) is finally dealing with the dichotomy of “men will do awful things to hurt women so you’re allowed not to trust them and actively encouraged to question what they’re doing” and “people are who they say they are”.
And especially finally considering that flashing could be a gateway crime - and the issues of just calmly letting any man enter spaces where they can expose their penis and not be questioned by women.
Finally people seem to be seeing the conflict of issues which lots of us feminists have been talking about for the past few years.