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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Economist on why the word 'woman' is tying people up in knots

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SocialConnection · 01/10/2021 08:29

Super-sensible article from the Economist here! Great conversational peaking content.

www.economist.com/leaders/2021/10/02/why-the-word-woman-is-tying-people-in-knots✔️

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LiteralViolet · 01/10/2021 08:36

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aliasundercover · 01/10/2021 09:20

Non-paywalled version of the same article
www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/300420584/why-the-word-woman-is-tying-people-in-knots

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 01/10/2021 09:20

It was refreshing to read such a sensible piece (available for free if you set up an account or also via web.archive.org/ if you put the Economist URL in the box )

This linguistic shift is being driven by both compassion and fear. Compassion, because organisations are keen not to be seen to be excluding those whose sense of their gender does not match their sex, such as people who identify as trans or non-binary. And fear, because they are worried about attracting the wrath of online mobs should they be deemed to have violated a set of rapidly changing taboos about gender and sex that hardly existed five years ago—and which, outside a few rarefied circles, still don’t. Most dictionaries define a woman as an “adult human female”. Among some activists, this is a gross provocation, for they see it as denying that males can be women, too.

Language changes constantly (the word “taboo”, for instance, is an 18th-century import from Polynesia). But doctors, bosses and politicians should think carefully before throwing away widely understood words, or using them in new and radically different ways. In the rush to seem up to date, they risk doing a disservice to their own patients, employees and voters.

Babdoc · 01/10/2021 09:30

Cue TRA outrage and pile on in 3,2,1….

Imnobody4 · 01/10/2021 09:31

Excellent article clear, rational and succinct. It appears to be an editorial not just an opinion piece. If Labour is honest about debate they should address this.

NecessaryScene · 01/10/2021 09:40

Cue TRA outrage and pile on in 3,2,1….

They don't read the Economist. It's far too reality-based.

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 01/10/2021 10:36

@Babdoc

Cue TRA outrage and pile on in 3,2,1….
I can summarise what will be said in order to save them the bother?

Woman doesn't mean adult human female it means 'fluff feeling, fluff me, me me'. Anyone who disagrees is a bigot because I say so and I won't discuss or explain that because my view is more important than yours.

Cabinfever10 · 01/10/2021 10:54

That's a great piece and I love that they specifically say that it's only women and not men

PainAuChocowhat · 01/10/2021 11:27

The Economist is, for all intents & purposes, headed up by two women. I can’t imagine either would be thrilled to be referred to as “bodies with vaginas”.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 01/10/2021 13:39

That’s a really good article

The key line for me is that organisations are considering whether inclusion or women’s safety is more important

Good to see the choice recognised, but blimey, shouldn’t it be a no brained?

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