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Caroline Criado Perez on trusting the police (Telegraph)

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ItsRainingProstateOwners · 30/09/2021 13:54

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/women-will-never-trust-police-admit-wayne-couzens-no-isolated/

Can anyone archive?

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 30/09/2021 14:18

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 30/09/2021 14:25

I feel sick with anger.

Meanwhile, one woman every week is coming forward to report domestic abuse by a police officer. At least 15 women – the majority of them domestic violence victims – have been killed by police officers in the past 12 years, while the conviction rates for police officers who abuse their partners are almost half the national average. In April it was revealed that the Met was investigating an officer for raping two of his colleagues an astonishing three years after the allegations were reported. He had not even been suspended.

In 2012, the Independent Police Complaints Commission published a report called “The abuse of police powers to perpetrate sexual violence”. The report was commissioned following the jailing in 2011 of Stephen Mitchell, a former Northumbria police constable who was convicted of numerous “serious sex attacks against women he met through his job”. The recommendations? Better vetting, more vigilance and supervision. They also highlighted several instances where predatory police officers could have been stopped had their colleagues chosen to report them rather than turning a blind eye.

ArabellaScott · 30/09/2021 14:27

What is there left to say?

Men don't care.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 30/09/2021 14:32

Somebody on the Everard thread made this point that couldn't be more well-observed:

I wonder how many men are coming up with solutions today? I wonder how many men are pondering male violence and women’s safety during their coffee break. We should compare that figure against how many women are actually putting across ideas about how to solve male violence against women and girls.

We should not be talking about NAMALT, clearly many are and we are right to be concerned.

JosephineDeBeauharnais · 30/09/2021 14:35

@ArabellaScott

What is there left to say?

Men don't care.

The police only care about this case because it makes them look really really bad. Men only care about this sort of stuff when it starts to make the “good guys” all look like perps.
JosephineDeBeauharnais · 30/09/2021 14:36

Couzens has only got the whole life tariff because he abused his position as a police officer, not because of the crime itself.

2319inprogress · 30/09/2021 14:40

The police only care about this case because it makes them look really really bad. Men only care about this sort of stuff when it starts to make the “good guys” all look like perps
Yep. 10th rule of misogyny
"The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad."

everythingcrossed · 30/09/2021 14:42

I had no idea but, in the same vein as abuser priests, what better career choice than a police officer if you are a sexual predator?

ItsRainingProstateOwners · 30/09/2021 15:14

Thanks Embarrassing.

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jlpartnerrs · 30/09/2021 15:30

I've ringed all the stories about VAWAG on the front page of the Guardian today, it's there in black and white - women are under siege.

Caroline Criado Perez on trusting the police (Telegraph)
ArabellaScott · 30/09/2021 15:48

I saw that on the BBC site, earlier, too, jlp, and was going to do the same thing, but found it too depressing. Here. Feels like there's been a war declared on women.

Caroline Criado Perez on trusting the police (Telegraph)
purpleboy · 30/09/2021 15:52

@JosephineDeBeauharnais

Couzens has only got the whole life tariff because he abused his position as a police officer, not because of the crime itself.
This is a point worth repeating.
Signalbox · 30/09/2021 15:57

I was glad to see that Kate Wilson won her tribunal against the Met. So disgusting. I'm not sure how they will even to begin to deal with the utter contempt that they hold for women.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-58749590?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA

"Kate Wilson met Mark Kennedy while he was posing as an environmental campaigner in Nottingham in 2003. It later emerged Mr Kennedy had sexual relationships with as many as 10 other women during his deployment. The tribunal said the case revealed "disturbing and lamentable failings at the most fundamental levels". Earlier this year the Investigatory Powers Tribunal (IPT) at the Royal Courts of Justice heard Mr Kennedy had been sent to infiltrate the Sumac Centre in Nottingham in 2003. Shortly after arriving Mr Kennedy, calling himself Mark Stone, started a relationship with Ms Wilson which lasted for two years before an amicable split when she moved to Spain. In 2010, she learned his real name and that he was actually a married police officer."

Ghostsintheshelf · 30/09/2021 16:02

@jlpartnerrs

I've ringed all the stories about VAWAG on the front page of the Guardian today, it's there in black and white - women are under siege.
And all the un-ringed articles are basically stories of male incompetence/dishonesty. I'm really fed up of men today.
StroppyTop · 30/09/2021 16:04

This has been going round my head for weeks. Feeling disgusted and scared and not filled with hope for the future of women and girls.

I need to do something, take action - what can I do?

ItsRainingProstateOwners · 30/09/2021 16:20

The Guardian will report on these stories and wring their hands yet allow women to be forced out of its own paper for expressing certain views and use language and support individuals and movements that will erase our ability to talk about our oppression. The irony is not lost on me.

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GCAcademic · 30/09/2021 16:48

@everythingcrossed

I had no idea but, in the same vein as abuser priests, what better career choice than a police officer if you are a sexual predator?
See also aid workers in developing countries.

We know that men like this actively seek out roles where they can abuse their power and gratify their depraved appetites with impunity. The fact that the police can't even admit the obvious fact that their force is a natural target for such predators to seek employment in, and instead keep on with the "one bad egg" rhetoric, gives us all the more reason not to trust them.

OhHolyJesus · 30/09/2021 17:26

The irony is not lost on me.

The irony is not lost on me either - it also probably won't be long before the BBC page could be highlighted in a similar way for the multiple trans or gender ideology or related related stories in recent times and no doubt again in the not too distant future.

The war on women is being played out in the media and social media as well as our online (porn), on our streets and in our homes.

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