Any and all pronouns?

[oxcat1]

I live in Brighton so every meeting for almost every organisation starts with us each having to introduce ourselves and our pronouns.

Recently, one person introduced themselves as 'any pronouns', and a second as 'all pronouns'.

I rarely have reason to use pronouns within a meeting but was wondering whether one of those could be used as a way of indicating that I don't wish to be defined by gender? Does this give a good option for people who wish to opt out of having to reveal pronouns?

Yes of course. I'm any pronouns.

I'd be tempted with and my pronouns are "Whatever"

I have a feeling that this any/all pronouns business is a way for people to get out of declaring their pronouns without actually revealing that they just don't believe in gender ideology.

Jesus. I've never been asked to do this. How can you stand it?

For crying out loud !

What sad empty lives people live to be obsessed with such things .
However the reference to Brighton is the give-away.

In the real world your name should be enough.

By the way, does the “wrong” pronoun invalidate a committee members opinion or contribution to a discussion? (You’re bloody right it does!)

The reference to Brighton is deliberate. Here it is everywhere - every council official will have pronouns in their emails, every GP etc, but I don't know how representative it is of the UK more generally?

It seems that although very similar in meaning some people saying 'all pronouns' would like you to cycle through them, in reflection of their gender fluidity, whereas 'any pronouns' generally means 'I don't care'. I'm struggling enough to remember how use 'they/their', so certainly wouldn't manage to cycle!

I feel uncomfortable giving my pronouns for reasons that are probably obvious, but neither do I want to make a statement at the start of every meeting, hence wondering if I could use 'any pronouns'. However, I did find this online though, so my suggestion may actually be offensive to some:

Although I've recently seen people putting 'any pronouns' or 'all pronouns' next to their names at an online event where a few people had written specific pronouns, but most hadn't. So I thought the opposite, that it might be a way of showing you support those who choose and state pronouns but don't mind yourself.

I would just say "no pronouns, thanks" and enjoy watching them try and accommodate me.

I'd just say 'any, I don't mind' - because I don't. I don't believe in gender ideology so I can't be misgendered and whatever pronouns are used about me, it doesn't change the fact that I'm female.

On my last point, so I mean I didn't see it as a sign of being secretly gender critical...but who knows.

Good god that would annoy me. What a load of absolute shite. I would refuse to answer the question.

Oh blimey, so by saying "any pronouns" you are supposedly invalidating the experience of trans people. Am I invalidating the experience of disabled people when I walk into the meeting room? Or am I invalidating deaf people when I listen to this bullshit?

Is it OK to say "no thank you"?

Completely opt out of highlighting pronouns?

I'm going message you my response to this question (don't want to share it publicly on here).

I would just state Ox and Ox's

"I find pronouns triggering, so if any pronouns are used you are hatefully creating an unsafe space for me with literal violent pronouns."

You could let out a screech of pain every time a pronoun is mentioned (or referred to) to signal the distress their disrespect is causing you and your identity of apronounity (that is a new word now as we can all make rubbish language up).

Cis makes me want to scream. I just can't wrap my head around being given a made up label by people who are obsessed with telling others how to refer to them. Why don't I get a day then? Makes my brain hurt. 😭😩

A say not a day!

but I don't know how representative it is of the UK more generally?

Where I live if I started announcing my pronouns I think people would look at me like.I was bonkers!

It is starting to.creep onto more &.more.email signatures at work though

I bloody love @Cailleach1 approach through. I couldn't bring myself to say such utter tosh though but if .you could with a straight face it would be amazing

@oxcat1

The reference to Brighton is deliberate. Here it is everywhere - every council official will have pronouns in their emails, every GP etc, but I don't know how representative it is of the UK more generally?

It seems that although very similar in meaning some people saying 'all pronouns' would like you to cycle through them, in reflection of their gender fluidity, whereas 'any pronouns' generally means 'I don't care'. I'm struggling enough to remember how use 'they/their', so certainly wouldn't manage to cycle!

I feel uncomfortable giving my pronouns for reasons that are probably obvious, but neither do I want to make a statement at the start of every meeting, hence wondering if I could use 'any pronouns'. However, I did find this online though, so my suggestion may actually be offensive to some:

I don't care if it is offensive to some. I'd be offended that I was asked for my sodding pronouns but being offended isn't a terrible thing.

I don't get how they can claim that 'cis' people don't 'suffer' misgendering. I get 'misgendered' all the time, usually by kids who've forgotten what lesson they're in and refer to me as 'Sir'. I literally could not care less.

How do these people go on in shops and suchlike? Do they wear a big badge and kick up a fuss if someone says 'can I help you Sir?'

This hasn't come up yet at work (I'm sure it will, my classroom came with some sort of multi-coloured flag, not just the rainbow one, one of the others with the pastelish colours and the triangle shape), I intend to claim the pronouns 'Name/Name/Name's.

The gender ideologists mantra that "misgendering is literal violence" has lead to this mass hysteria... "oh my god so everyone has to immediately proclaim their pronouns or people are going to die". It's extremism. It's bullshit.

I too don’t know how you bare it. What a lot of privileged fucking first world nonsense.

My pronouns are hee/haw on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays: dolphin noise/longer dolphin noise on Tuesdays and Thursdays and on weekends you should not speak about me at all.

Just kidding, no one 'has' pronouns, they are simply words people use about you when you're not there. What people call me when I'm not there is none of my business.

As for how to respond, when this reaches me I simply plan to say 'no thank you'.

How do these people go on in shops and suchlike? Do they wear a big badge and kick up a fuss if someone says 'can I help you Sir?'