James Kirkup - Some Women Have Penises

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www.spectator.co.uk/article/some-women-have-penises-if-you-won-t-sleep-with-them-you-re-transphobic

It's always good when a MN topic hits the mainstream

We're inundated No matter how bad the day, there's sunlight everywhere

Shame we can’t see the comments under the article. I’m guessing not many lesbians are queuing up to offer dates to penis bearers…

This was from 2019 🤷🏻

I'm bored with writing about politicians and Brexit, so I am writing about genitals instead

He gets it. Every aspect.

JK has tried to retire from this issue for a long time - hoping that the lunacy will stop. It hasn't. So he comes back to it. Magnificent man.

I don’t understand what queer theory is. At the end of the article, it sounded chilling.

Great article. I know it's a couple of years old, but it's spot on for me.

What's that naked dating show called? Never watched it but heard there is one.
Anyway, that springs to mind reading that article.

Dr Em wrote some very illuminating articles about Queer Theory. I think they were originally on Medium but removed. However, I would imagine they're available somewhere - does anyone have a link?

I was left with the impression that a great many students in the last decade or so will have been taught about Queer Theory. It seems to be an academic game-playing kind of thing where you say 'What if we just do anything we like and recognise no boundaries at all?' Unsurprisingly, in practice there are many problems with this approach, not least that it gives the green light to paedophiles that having sex with minors is AOK. Vile.

All Dr Em articles are on Uncommon Ground Media:

twitter.com/PankhurstEM/status/1263746652055187456?s=20

Thanks, @Ereshkigalangcleg, I knew somebody would know and I was too lazy to go searching myself. Over on The Archers thread we have important chat going on about custard creams and their place in the pecking order of biscuits, so obviously I've been a bit preoccupied with that.

No one owes you sex. You can’t force
Someone to date and have sexy with you. Because forcing sex on someone is rape. Sexual coercion is morally wrong and shaming people to date you makes you a piece of shit!

No one is allowed to live their actual sexuality and date who they are attracted to except trans women? Oh ok.. sounds like something some men who feel they are entitled to sex would pull.

Funny how no matter how your dress a man up he still acts like a man. The entitlement of trans women is identical to men. Different side of the same coin. It’s just men being men. So I’m calling bullshit.

Part of me wants women to just tap out and say. Ok boys. You can have it all. I would bet that the sputtering and red face tantrums from men being ignored would show everyone what this is really about.

I think women understand that nothing hurts narcissistic men more then being ignored. I know we really can’t ignore these antics, but sometimes I wish women could realistically go on a strike worldwide and stop engaging with men period. Men would throw a fit and trans women would throw a fit because above all.. men want women to be focused on them.

@Kendodd

What's that naked dating show called? Never watched it but heard there is one. Anyway, that springs to mind reading that article.

Naked attraction?

@Kendodd

What's that naked dating show called? Never watched it but heard there is one. Anyway, that springs to mind reading that article.

Naked attraction

I woke up to it on my telly I was transfixed in horror

Yes, Naked Attraction
Just read the wikipedia page on it. Includes full frontal nudity. Sounds like a terrible show.
So imagine you have a straight man 'choosing' no reason why he couldn't be faced with all transwomen with penises?

It sounded like the face is the last thing to be revealed.

Anyway, yes, Naked Attraction, they should use it to root out transphobia.

Sorry but I don’t want to date a man with a vagina… and I don’t care how other people view that. People can do whatever they want, present themselves as whatever gender they want and that’s perfectly fine. I accept it. Just like people should accept how I present and what my preferences are. It’s about treating people with respect… there’s a video about consent and tea drinking. So I want tea… not coffee or coke but tea because that is what I like and to force anything else on me because I should like it is very obviously not consent

Until quite recent times, lesbians were told they were wrong/evil for only wanting to have sex with other women, and that they should sleep with men.

Now, lesbians are told they are wrong/evil, for only wanting to have sex with other women, and that they should sleep with men.

Plus ca change

...exclusion was likely the result of factors ranging from explicit transprejudice, such as viewing trans persons as unfit, mentally ill, or subhuman, to a lack of understanding or knowledge about what it means to be a transgender man or woman.

Yes. It could only be because we view them as subhuman or mentally ill. Not because, you know, sexuality.

When the whole super straight thing came out I was thinking “finally! someone has nailed it,” I’m not even a tiny bit attracted to women’s bodies (or bodies with vaginas as we’re supposed to call them now) ” but then it was squashed down as being transphobic etc and never to be spoken of again.

I would not consider a sexual relationship with a person who has breasts, as I just don’t find them a turn on. I DO enjoy penises. I don’t fancy men who wear make up (with the possible exception of Captain Guyliner/Hook from Once Upon a time). I also don’t fancy anyone who thinks they’re the most important and interesting thing in the room, or doesn’t have at least a basic grasp of feminism, which rules out anyone who puts gender feels ahead of biological reality.

Hearing about a friend’s new 25 year old GF banging on about gender and being NB my eyes rolled so far into the back of my head I could see my lady-brain. I just couldn’t tolerate a relationship with someone who’d bought into all that bollocks - without actually having any actual bollocks - so I’m happy to exclude trans people of either sex from my dating pool.

I want an unashamedly rugged, masculine man, with all the anatomy that traditionally entails. My sexuality is not up for negotiation. If those 13% of people who would consider a trans person as a potential date are being honest and not just being kind, then that’s still a pretty good pool to choose from. As a fat 47 year old, I can guarantee that less than 13% of handsome rugged men would consider me as potential dating material so who’s really winning here?

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