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Tory MP Caroline Nokes gunning for Liz Truss over Equalities role.

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GreenUp · 24/09/2021 03:26

Seems like the TRA Tory MP Caroline Nokes who chairs the Women and Equalities Committee is going after Liz Truss on any grounds she can find. This is being framed as "Liz Truss treats this like a side hustle" when in reality, Caroline Nokes and Crispin Blunt are desperate to get rid of Liz Truss as she is not unsympathetic to GC arguments.

"The chair of a group of MPs has accused the foreign secretary, Liz Truss, of treating her second role as minister of women and equalities as a “side hustle”.

A damning report from the women and equalities committee accused the government of sidelining the push for equality, and said it risked “regression on equal rights after decades of progress”."

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/24/liz-truss-accused-of-treating-equalities-role-as-side-hustle

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 24/09/2021 19:00

@RedHoodGirl

I’d love to see a dedicated minister with time and resources and backed up by a raft of junior ministers tackling important equalities legislation, making long-term plans, and seeing them through, rather than being tossed around from department to department depending on whoever gets shuffled into role. So many women and equalities issues are overlooked or ignored - just look at how women have been impacted over Covid. To have a minister watching out and fighting for such things would be excellent.
Agreed. The Equality brief should be about a range of issues / challenges / discrimination. Not the narrow wedging of men into women's spaces that so many of our current politicians and well funded lobby groups are so obsessed with.
ChristinaXYZ · 24/09/2021 20:53

@donquixotedelamancha

I don't agree the Minister's job should be full time equalities, for one thing it inevitably becomes a silo, relieving everyone else of bothering. What's needed is some good strong junior ministers who are across the brief in different areas and a collegiate approach rather than the 'magic minister' who transforms everything.

This.

Agree completely. And I like Truss and Badenoch.
ChristinaXYZ · 24/09/2021 21:05

Also: an excellent piece on the behaviour of the so called Women & Equalities Commons Select Committee which Noakes heads up

conservativesforwomen.org/the-women-and-equalities-select-committee-remains-determined-to-insult-women

MrsOvertonsWindow · 24/09/2021 21:15

Slightly off topic but here's an example of how the pandering to one group's interpretation of diversity / equality is actively dangerous for huge numbers of the population - (and illegal) - but of course the demands of a certain lobby means that the dreaded rainbow crossings are everywhere:

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a3ad988e-1d3b-11ec-8d6d-67649e90fafa?shareToken=dbf1c2fffeb960ce04c7e97469523cbc

RedDogsBeg · 24/09/2021 22:13

Police horses didn't like those crossings much either and Police horses are usually pretty bomb proof.

AlwaysTawnyOwl · 25/09/2021 19:16

I’ve read the report. It’s an unsubtle attack on Liz Truss. I’d laugh my head off if they got their way and Jackie D’Oyle Price was appointed to the role. You’d see back pedaling faster than road runner. Liz Truss is the most popular member of the cabinet outstripping even Rishi Sunak. Dear old Caroline doesn’t seem able to join the dots. Please do email/tweet in Liz’s support and to Boris. She’s on the side of ordinary women not an extremist ideology.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 25/09/2021 19:51

[quote MrsOvertonsWindow]Slightly off topic but here's an example of how the pandering to one group's interpretation of diversity / equality is actively dangerous for huge numbers of the population - (and illegal) - but of course the demands of a certain lobby means that the dreaded rainbow crossings are everywhere:

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a3ad988e-1d3b-11ec-8d6d-67649e90fafa?shareToken=dbf1c2fffeb960ce04c7e97469523cbc[/quote]
That is fascinating, thank you for posting it.

I have a neurological condition that is very susceptible to patterns and colours - on a floor scale, they can knock me off my feet and leave me crawling with my eyes closed to try and escape. It's a problem in some cities where they have colourful and elaborate zigzags etc. on the pavements.

I am irritated that so many of these have passed without an EIA.

Abitofalark · 25/09/2021 22:40

If it was the responsibility of one wholly dedicated minister, all the others would shrug it off as being 'over there with X' and nothing to do with them.

At present there is a team of four equality ministers who also hold ministerial posts in government departments:

Liz Truss: Secretary of State (the top rank of minister) Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office;
Minister for Women and Equalities: responsible for
•developing an equalities policy based on individual autonomy and dignity
•promoting equality of opportunity for everyone

Kim Badenoch: Minister of State (mid rank of minister) Department for Levelling Up, Housing etc;

Minister for Equalities: overall responsibility for:
•policy on sexual orientation and transgender equality
•cross-government equality strategy and legislation

Baroness Stedman-Scott: Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (junior rank of minister) Department for Work and Pensions;
Minister for Women:

Mike Freer: Parliamentary Under Secretary of State ( junior rank of minister); Minister for Exports;
Minister for Equalities.

PearPickingPorky · 25/09/2021 23:23

@Abitofalark

If it was the responsibility of one wholly dedicated minister, all the others would shrug it off as being 'over there with X' and nothing to do with them.

At present there is a team of four equality ministers who also hold ministerial posts in government departments:

Liz Truss: Secretary of State (the top rank of minister) Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office;
Minister for Women and Equalities: responsible for
•developing an equalities policy based on individual autonomy and dignity
•promoting equality of opportunity for everyone

Kim Badenoch: Minister of State (mid rank of minister) Department for Levelling Up, Housing etc;

Minister for Equalities: overall responsibility for:
•policy on sexual orientation and transgender equality
•cross-government equality strategy and legislation

Baroness Stedman-Scott: Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (junior rank of minister) Department for Work and Pensions;
Minister for Women:

Mike Freer: Parliamentary Under Secretary of State ( junior rank of minister); Minister for Exports;
Minister for Equalities.

Thank you for this. I never one how it worked and the hierarchy.
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