Ben Hunte is back and gunning for Kemi Badenoch

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After his transfer out of his LGBT+++++ role in BBC he's now left them completely to work for Vice.
Unfortunately it's the same shoddy journalism
'Exclusive: The UK’s equalities minister, Kemi Badenoch, mocked LGBTQ rights, questioned same-sex marriage, and called trans women “men” in an audio recording obtained by VICE World News.'
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@Melroses

I don't think he works for Vice - he just sold a story to them via PR firm.

According to his twitter account:

"Some job news... 🚨

After two years as the BBC News LGBT Correspondent, this month I will be moving to @VICEWorldNews! ✈️

I am so excited to continue investigating stories about race, LGBT people and inequality from across the world 🌍"
twitter.com/BenInLDN/status/1434891234712109062?s=19

According to his twitter bio he identifies as a Senior Reporter for Vice (LGBT / Race)

Well, he has only written the one article so far. Maybe there is more to come?

Click through on this.

You have to see the image to get it.
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I wonder whether Tory women feom ethnic minorities have a tougher time: Kemi, Priti etc. It is as if Labour feel they are being disloyal by having views other than the views Labour supporters feel they should have. And somehow a black man attacking a black woman seems to carry with it a hint of misogyny and of an attempt to put her in her place. I could be wrong, but that is how it was coming across to me.

Some people in Labour seem to subconsciously see their support of anti-racism campaigns and so on as a transaction, so if someone from an ethnic minority disagrees with them publicly, they feel they're reneging on their end of the deal.

They don't oppose racism just because it's the right thing to do- there are conditions attached.

I think Hunte's behaviour feels deeply misogynistic. Just as white men attack white women, and black men attack black women. Black women have a lot to contend with, on all sides, and Hunte isn't coming across as an ally to any woman.

Its still seems to be more a woman thing. The Tories seem to have had as good a sprinkling of ethnic minorities, and indeed women, in senior positions as other parties. Yet Kwasi Kwarteng, Sajid Javid or Nadhim Zahawi, don't seem suffer the same level of attack as their female ethnic minority counterparts. There is a very unpleasant undertone. A sort of "how dare you".

And yes, Hunte comes across as misogynist. I can't think of any reporting from him that showed any interest or empathy for women, not even lesbians, despite him covering the LGBT beat.

Different context but the only time I remember seeing a black male treated in a similar way was Kanye West for supporting Trump.

@MissTheobald

The phrase transsexual, like transvestite and transgenderism, is often considered outdated and offensive by many trans people.

Hang on, what? Is "transgenderism" offensive? I thought that was the term you were supposed to use.

The terms change CONSTANTLY so everything is constantly offensive. According the GLAAD, see below:

"transgenderism"
This is not a term commonly used by transgender people. This is a term used by anti-transgender activists to dehumanize transgender people and reduce who they are to "a condition."

It's the "ism" causing the schism. It'll change next week probably and the words used will be something new.

Its still seems to be more a woman thing.

It's a combo. It's "intersectionality" hitting someone twice, as per its own precepts.

Part of the point of any identity politics group is to suppress the individual voices of members of that group, and elevate particular people as "representatives".

The groups are expected to have one unified group identity and viewpoint. Any dissidents are then deemed to be self-hating, "not really black" or whatever.

So black women are hit with this twice - once for not having correct black opinions, and again for not having correct woman opinions.

Part of all this nonsense is the attempt to make "woman" an "identity" rather than a material reality - and that identity includes the approved "toe the libfem line and pander to men" opinions. The "TERF" epithet for women is functionally the same as "Uncle Tom" - not having the correct opinion for the group.

The slightly odd thing is that the woman identity group is supposed to centre males. Those of other races are expected to centre their own race (and its self-appointed leaders), so they're usually attacked for things not perceived as being sufficiently anti-white, or being in some way "anti-black" (eg not having the prejudice of low expectations, or disagreeing with the "community leaders").

But women are attacked for standing up for females. They become traitors to their group identity by standing up for their group's individuals.

Thus, despite intersectionality, women are the only group directly prevented from ever centring themselves. Idpol says no, sorry, that's not part of the correct group behaviour.

(Idpol largely undermines intersectionality anyway, because there's assumed to never be any conflict. Different oppression axes aren't allowed to have different conflicting needs - someone is expected to be able to be oppressed on all axes simultaneously, and the views related to each are supposed to mesh harmoniously. There Is One Unified Theory of the correct view, and id groups just concentrate on one part of it. It's as if there's a Central Committee somewhere...)

"Women with a trans history"

Does that include trans widows too?

@TheWeeDonkey

"Women with a trans history"

Does that include trans widows too?

I would assume it meant detransitioners i.e. women who have previously taken medication or had surgery which may impact their current health of view on life.

Thank you NecessaryScene.

In addition I assume it depends on how people identify. If people are not required to identify according to biological sex, why should they be required to identify according to skin colour.

I suspect many attracted to the Tory party, will identify as first or second generation strivers, who want to see hard work and enterprise rewarded. Not dissimilar to my father's post-war generation of Irish Catholics who along with their Jewish counterparts (my parents went to their share of Bar Matzvahs) who saw their children joining the English middle classes, via education and hard work. And that whilst there is a pride in our family roots, this journey to the middle classes has involved assimilation and inter-marriage like the many, many generations of immigrant before us. Coming to the UK was about opportunity and looking forward.

So the double whammy. Community leaders telling women what they should think. Community leaders telling people of colour what they should think. Woe betide the women who not only ignore both, but stick their heads above the parapet in doing so. You don't have to like the politics in order to respect the courage.

Ben Hunte is back and gunning for Kemi Badenoch again

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10017037/Row-leaked-messages-Equalities-Minister-saying-doesnt-care-colonialism.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=1490

This time focusing on her views on colonialism. He does not seem to like her.

I feel sad for her - the sheer self-hatred she must feel. Reminds me of that sketch show by a Black female comedian years ago in which she was working in an office but didn't want anyone to know she was Black. It's understandable, a lot of Black people grow up with extremely negative views of themselves and Blackness. The only issue with Kemi is that she wields power over others. The tories must thank their lucky stars for her.

Wow, Ben really has it in for Kemi. I can't comment on the colonialism thing, but look what else he has padded it out with. He is monstering her for making personal predictions on who will be the next leader of the conservative party!

Asked whether she considered Tory MP and government minister Sam Gyimah a potential leader of the party, Badenoch responded with the words, “Fuck no.”

He has no friends or base in the party,” she continued. “Who is going to follow him.”

People are allowed to say they don't think a party colleague will become leader, right?

As Ben himself admits: Gyimah, who quit the Conservative Party over UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Brexit plans and later joined the Liberal Democrats

Well, there you go then. Bit difficult to become leader of the Tories if you disagree so much with the current leader that you'd rather join the Lib-Dems in the political wilderness! She was right, wasn't she?

@VladmirsPoutine

I feel sad for her - the sheer self-hatred she must feel. Reminds me of that sketch show by a Black female comedian years ago in which she was working in an office but didn't want anyone to know she was Black. It's understandable, a lot of Black people grow up with extremely negative views of themselves and Blackness. The only issue with Kemi is that she wields power over others. The tories must thank their lucky stars for her.

What a load of patronising tosh.

the sheer self-hatred she must feel

This is a profoundly unpleasant thing to say. Assuming her beliefs are principled and based on her own experience, to call this "self-hatred" crosses a number of different lines all in one go.

This is what #bekind looks like when you pull back the curtain.

Quote from article.

“I hope that it is strongly understood that just because she is a Black woman, does not mean that she can be the spokesperson for all Black people.”

Well, no shit, Sherlock! You mean that black people aren't the Borg, and they are all individuals with their own personalities and opinions?

Seems to be more of the “black woman, be kind, stay in your lane and don’t dare think independently”

Agree, or not with her views on colonialism, or indeed what a woman is, she is entitled to them. FWIW the Spectator thinks she has a point. www.spectator.co.uk/article/kemi-badenoch-is-right-about-colonialism

There are so few women politicians. It is becoming increasingly obvious why that is the case.

The Spectator thinks she has a point about colonialism!?! Shocking! Is that a bit like how Catholics think the Pope might know one or two things about Catholicism?

But in anycase maybe one day she'll find healing. Hating something you are which makes up ones identity so much as one's race can be utterly destabilising.

@VladmirsPoutine

The Spectator thinks she has a point about colonialism!?! Shocking! Is that a bit like how Catholics think the Pope might know one or two things about Catholicism?

But in anycase maybe one day she'll find healing. Hating something you are which makes up ones identity so much as one's race can be utterly destabilising.

More patronising tosh. Do people like you ever consider how racist it sounds when you criticise black people for not thinking the way you think black people should think?

I see - Kemi can't be allowed to criticise a black man but BH can get away with trying to pull down a black woman. The left's misogyny is showing again.
As for her opinion on colonialism, she's an independent thinker and we could do with more of them in politics.

@NecessaryScene, your post about IdPol was excellent - suddenly in my mind a few more things fell into place.

@VladmirsPoutine, could you be more patronising? KB comes over as very bright, very on it and capable of making mincemeat of anyone hellbent on taking her down a peg or two. I don't think she needs you telling what she should be thinking. Race and heritage are incredibly complex issues, and different people have different personalities and different experiences and tackle their lives in very different ways.

What on earth would make anyone think Kemi Badenoch hates herself? based on what- her social and political views?

Why could it not be that that’s just what she thinks, and she’s perfectly content within herself?

I expect she has things that keep her up at night, as we all do, but I doubt it’s anything that Ben H can give us an insight into. How extraordinary that the political situation these days that when a white man goes after a black woman with what seems like an attack on her personal qualities, people side with him to oppose racism and sexism.