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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

FiLiA sessions 2021

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purpleboy · 14/09/2021 12:14

So the FiLiA sessions are open now to book. The speakers list is brilliant!
How many from FWR are going?
Is anyone planning a meet up?

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Misiecle · 16/10/2021 17:01

My favourite, chalked on the ground outside the Guildhall, was "Love everybody you sh*ts".
Which I think actually means - Everybody must love the sacred caste, but the sacred caste doesn't have to love everybody back. And if you're outside the sacred caste (or not a handmaiden to the caste) you're unlovable - so maybe that way the impossible contradiction in the demand is tidied away.
In any case, all us unlovable** people were inside having a marvellous time at FiLiA while they all had to sit in a brutalist city square wearing pink and blue flags all day. Felt quite sorry for them really.

Imnobody4 · 16/10/2021 18:22

www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/people/portsmouth-council-flies-trans-and-other-inclusive-flags-outside-offices-3421367

Disgraceful behaviour from a council.

One of the protest’s organisers, Councillor Claire Udy, said: ‘This is a clear message from the council that trans and non binary lives are valid.

‘It also sends a message that it is time to reclaim the women’s suffrage flag, which has been co-opted by a transphobic movement.’

And one trans woman fromPortsmouth, 69-year-old Steph – who runs the Steph’s Place blog, said: ‘All the team at Steph’s Place are very grateful to the city council before the “fly the flag” event this weekend.

Imnobody4 · 16/10/2021 18:30

From Julie Bindell
unherd.com/thepost/the-misogyny-of-trans-activists/?=frpo

At the end of today’s conference, there will be a vigil to honour the many victims of femicide. The plan was to be outside, in the weak autumn sunshine, reading out the names of the women who died at the hands of men and to call for an end to deadly male violence. The fact that we will have to do this on a pavement defaced with such misogynistic graffiti is as heart-breaking as it is infuriating.

Imnobody4 · 16/10/2021 18:36

The space is being reclaimed! #FiLiA2021

twitter.com/GetTheLOutUK/status/1449413652885516301?t=oIKv5lW797Zkq8i-eKazeA&s=19

Cwenthryth · 16/10/2021 18:44

Well, I have to say my experience of FiLiA today is that the protestors have had very very little impact on us. It’s all faux PR. I said hello cheerily as I went in - there were maybe about a dozen of them at the start, mostly men, a few transwomen. They were just standing round talking to each other. One said hello back but his mate wasn’t happy about that.

In Julie Bindel’s session, I was vaguely aware of a little noise outside but nothing distinct or disruptive. Julie Bindel gave the floor to an Eritrean activist talking about the impact of the genocide in Tigray on women, as well as giving her own testimony of abuse and rape - I felt the contrast then, between the sheer narcissism of the small group of dimwits outside, and the massive sense of solidarity and sisterhood inside.

During lunch break when I went to my hotel and back, the TRAs were also just talking to themselves. No organisation at all was visible, and there were more (Amnesty branded!) placards piled up than there were protestors to hold them.

At 5.30pm we all came out into the square together, hundreds of us, and held a vigil for women killed by men. We heard their names and stories. We sang and cried. I didn’t see or hear any TRAs at that point, they had left some childish chalk scrawls on the pavement but they were mostly illegible gibberish, and no one took any notice of them.

Anyway I’ve just come back to the hotel to gather myself before going back to the party. It’s been a rollercoaster of a day. I got retweeted by Julie Bindel and then also just fangirled Joanna Cherry in the street (and cried, the shame, I was fragile after the vigil! I just wanted to tell her Thankyou!)

Definitely need a drink now!

littlbrowndog · 16/10/2021 18:45

Why are they protesting women talking about male violence rape across the globe. I don’t understand why elected officials would do this ?

What’s gone so wrong with their brains.

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littlbrowndog · 16/10/2021 18:46

@Cwenthryth

Well, I have to say my experience of FiLiA today is that the protestors have had very very little impact on us. It’s all faux PR. I said hello cheerily as I went in - there were maybe about a dozen of them at the start, mostly men, a few transwomen. They were just standing round talking to each other. One said hello back but his mate wasn’t happy about that.

In Julie Bindel’s session, I was vaguely aware of a little noise outside but nothing distinct or disruptive. Julie Bindel gave the floor to an Eritrean activist talking about the impact of the genocide in Tigray on women, as well as giving her own testimony of abuse and rape - I felt the contrast then, between the sheer narcissism of the small group of dimwits outside, and the massive sense of solidarity and sisterhood inside.

During lunch break when I went to my hotel and back, the TRAs were also just talking to themselves. No organisation at all was visible, and there were more (Amnesty branded!) placards piled up than there were protestors to hold them.

At 5.30pm we all came out into the square together, hundreds of us, and held a vigil for women killed by men. We heard their names and stories. We sang and cried. I didn’t see or hear any TRAs at that point, they had left some childish chalk scrawls on the pavement but they were mostly illegible gibberish, and no one took any notice of them.

Anyway I’ve just come back to the hotel to gather myself before going back to the party. It’s been a rollercoaster of a day. I got retweeted by Julie Bindel and then also just fangirled Joanna Cherry in the street (and cried, the shame, I was fragile after the vigil! I just wanted to tell her Thankyou!)

Definitely need a drink now!

💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
LiteralVioletz · 16/10/2021 19:28

@Imnobody4

www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/people/portsmouth-council-flies-trans-and-other-inclusive-flags-outside-offices-3421367

Disgraceful behaviour from a council.

One of the protest’s organisers, Councillor Claire Udy, said: ‘This is a clear message from the council that trans and non binary lives are valid.

‘It also sends a message that it is time to reclaim the women’s suffrage flag, which has been co-opted by a transphobic movement.’

And one trans woman fromPortsmouth, 69-year-old Steph – who runs the Steph’s Place blog, said: ‘All the team at Steph’s Place are very grateful to the city council before the “fly the flag” event this weekend.

Pompey council have had a policy to have this flag up for years, from when it seemed like a bit of harmless virtue signalling. They'll fly anything if a councillor puts in a Notice of Motion and its easier to stick their hands up to vote 'whatever' at 11pm than to debate it properly. Means nothing to them.

It's a local joke that that flag is the only thing that Udy ever achieved in her ward before she loses her seat in May, at which point there will be a massive celebration party at the election count - rather deliciously, in the Guildhall - with even neutral council officers smirking as they announce the votes.

littlbrowndog · 16/10/2021 21:45

For all of us who have lost a loved one to male violence. Never forget you 😢😢😢

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SpringCrocus · 16/10/2021 22:17

I was by the open window at Julie Bindel's talk, and the TRAs definately chanted far more during her session, and particularly while the lovely, brave Ethiopean woman spoke about her efforts to help the women being raped and the genocide at the hands of Ethiopean, Eritrean troops and militia. And her own rapes and subsequently miscarrages and shunning by her family.

Imo, the scum outside did ramp it up, as a response to any time we applauded (which happened a lot, it was an excellent session)

Shame on them.

SpringCrocus · 16/10/2021 22:19

The whole day was fantastic, btw.

Helleofabore · 16/10/2021 22:24

And one trans woman fromPortsmouth, 69-year-old Steph – who runs the Steph’s Place blog, said: ‘All the team at Steph’s Place are very grateful to the city council before the “fly the flag” event this weekend.

Oh. Didn’t they tell the women of MN that they were responsible for the violence perpetrated by the males at the WiSpa protests?

littlbrowndog · 16/10/2021 22:27

@SpringCrocus

I was by the open window at Julie Bindel's talk, and the TRAs definately chanted far more during her session, and particularly while the lovely, brave Ethiopean woman spoke about her efforts to help the women being raped and the genocide at the hands of Ethiopean, Eritrean troops and militia. And her own rapes and subsequently miscarrages and shunning by her family.

Imo, the scum outside did ramp it up, as a response to any time we applauded (which happened a lot, it was an excellent session)

Shame on them.

Och shame on them. What awful people. Can’t believe it

Yet if they were subject to this would they boo

White priveledge out in the open

Cwenthryth · 16/10/2021 23:29

White, male, middle class privelige

SpringCrocus · 17/10/2021 00:18

Yep.

SpringCrocus · 17/10/2021 00:22

@Helleofabore

And one trans woman fromPortsmouth, 69-year-old Steph – who runs the Steph’s Place blog, said: ‘All the team at Steph’s Place are very grateful to the city council before the “fly the flag” event this weekend.

Oh. Didn’t they tell the women of MN that they were responsible for the violence perpetrated by the males at the WiSpa protests?

That's odd, because I thought the only two flags flying today were the pink/teal flag and a Pride +trans brown thing with the Portsmouth council logo ? I'll check tomorrow!
EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 17/10/2021 01:57

Here are some of the charming messages left by the protestors.

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lionheart · 17/10/2021 06:57

I was at that session too. What as also good about it was that Julie Bindel made a point of sharing the time and the space with some younger women.

The chanting when the women was talking about her own experience of violence and the ongoing atrocities really said so much about the TRAs.

None of it good.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/10/2021 07:40

Oh. Didn’t they tell the women of MN that they were responsible for the violence perpetrated by the males at the WiSpa protests?

Someone called "Steph751" did (I have a copy of the deleted post because it was addressed to me and aimed at all the GC women on the thread and I reported it) So it may be so, not sure if that MTF trans person said anywhere they were the Steph of Steph's Place.

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