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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The wi spa scandal

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Gab2 · 06/09/2021 23:40

I have been thinking about the incident at wi spa and what a situation like that can mean for any woman or kid using facilities that involve undressing etc. Even though self ID is not the law in the uk the situation is still the same. Even before the woke lot knew any facts about the indecent exposure incident they still called it bullshit as a kneejerk reaction to defend an ideology that they are socially pressured into upholding.

Where does that leave us when we find ourselves in a situation where a naked man stands there right in front of our underage child? Will we be charged if we phone the police on a man who is very likely a paedophile or a sex offender? Honestly, seriously, what do we do? What are our rights as mothers and women in that kind of situation? Its come to light now that the convicted sex offender at the wi spa actually climbed in beside a woman and her six year old daughter in a jacuzzi and he was naked while they were in their swimming costumes. What does the current law tell us what we can do? Is the law forcing us to allow a naked man be in the same room as our underage kids?

I am nervous about my kids going to swimming sessions with school because at the moment we don't know of child safeguarding laws really exist any longer.

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 06/09/2021 23:51

There's a current thread about aspects of Wi Spa:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4338925-Good-news-on-the-WI-Spa-incident

Have you talked to the school about your concerns?

Generally helpful site but I don't think it addresses the situation of changing rooms:

gcritical.org/introduction/

RoyalCorgi · 07/09/2021 09:51

Is the law forcing us to allow a naked man be in the same room as our underage kids?

At the moment, no. There are only about 5,000 people in the UK who have gender recognition certificates - that is, who have legally changed sex. And even then the Equality Act allows them to be excluded from single sex spaces if there is good reason to do so.

So at the moment if, say, a gym allows a male-bodied person into a women's changing room because that person says they are female, then I think women would have legitimate grounds for complaint. The gym would be within their rights to throw that person out.

However, the gym wouldn't (as I understand it) be breaking the law by allowing the person into the changing room. Which does raise the question of whether a woman in the changing room would be able to report the male-bodied person to the police for indecent exposure.

Hopefully there'll be a lawyer on here who can answer the question more authoritatively.

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