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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How do we provide a face-saving way back to reality for the politicians / public figures who are currently transactivism's minions?

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WhereYouLeftIt · 03/09/2021 17:15

I feel the tide is turning. Mainstream media are running articles on the current craziness and not just repeating verbatim whatever guff they are handed. Corporations and government departments are starting to distance themselves from Stonewall, and there have been some wins in the courts.

Sunlight is being allowed into the room, and the pigeons are coming home to roost.

But - many have publicly painted themselves into the TWAW corner. Very publicly. And if we're ever going to get them out of there, some, particularly the politicians, are going to need a face-saving way to get out of that corner, their political careers depend on it. And whilst I don't give a stuff for their careers, them saving face and stepping away from their current position will take far fewer years than replacing them with new and unbeholden politicians.

I really don't believe that many of them are True Believers Of The Faith (those who are we can probably do nothing about), just people trying to do a pressured job where time constraints have led them to take as fact the opinions presented to them by lobbyists.

So - what will make these people step out of that corner? What would make that look like a possible, even attractive, path? Carrot? Stick? Even shinier cause to espouse?

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RedToothBrush · 07/09/2021 10:01

Necessity is the mother of invention.

The need to survive isn't often talked about quite so much in western culture as its apparent in societies which are more hand to mouth. As inequality grows we are going to see change because what drives our society will change significantly.

Its not going to be led by people demanding black is white. It will be driven by practical issues far more than this current generation of middle class kids have been used to. There isn't going to be the same ability to indulge it.

ScaredOfDinosaurs · 07/09/2021 10:11

There's a pinned post at the top of the tumblr in action subreddit that is a breath of fresh air. Well worth a read!

1Week · 19/10/2021 23:17

Well, how did the politicians and institutions who got captured by PIE in the 70s/80s redeem themselves.

It's different now, with social media, we don't need a journalist to dig up and get published old statements.
Otoh, only cranks and conspiracy theorists still spread debunked statements....

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