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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Welsh Government is following Scotland's anti-woman lead.

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Olderbadger1 · 01/09/2021 12:03

Welsh Government is ideologically captured and seemingly intent on ending women's sex-based rights.

Their LGBTQ+ Action Plan is essentially a commitment to self-id and to an affirmation-only approach to gender non-conforming children. It's been written by Stonewall and their allies. Alternative views - from LGB people or from women generally - have been excluded. As with the previous Trans Action Plan, there is no EIA.

Welsh women have launched a 'Let's talk about Sex' campaign against this shitshow.
merchedcymru.wales/2021/08/31/lets-talk-about-sex/

It's genuinely frightening.

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Olderbadger1 · 09/09/2021 17:38

This is about women and women's experiences and voices and we really need to start centring that.

Agree. it's been a very successful strategic move to link up the two things. So that the moment women say 'women's rights' they are assumed to be against trans rights and immediately dismissed.

I have several letters from Welsh Government ministers in response to questions about women's rights. They all respond by telling me about trans' rights - specifically men's rights to be accepted as women.

We need to wrestle back the narrative.

Men have defined the parameters of every subject. All feminist arguments, however radical in intent or consequence, are with or against assertions or premises implicit in the male system, which is made credible or authentic by the power of men to name. No transcendence of the male system is possible as long as men have the power of naming... As Prometheus stole fire from the gods, so feminists will have to steal the power of naming from men, hopefully to better effect.
Andrea Dworkin

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FOIrequester · 11/09/2021 12:34

[quote EnfysPreseli]@FOIrequester You may have noticed already, but there's another FOI request in on the revised warning (or do I mean threat?) in according to Whatdotheyknow. There's also one on the original warnings in the consultation info which I'm not sure has been published yet. It wasn't through WDTK. Reference number is ATISN-15409. I'll try and attach pdfs to this post, but I've never done this so no idea whether that will work or not. [It didn't but I have pdfs if you want to see them].

The response to that one is basically the same as yours but the questions take a different tack and were asking for evidence of basis on which the decision to include the warning was made and how civil servants would put it into practice. So, as far as I can see they had no documented rationale for including the original text, had not sought any advice from their Legal Services department or whether referencing 'hate speech' and offences against individuals was appropriate to the context of a public policy consultation exercise, had not considered the effect the warning would have on people who wanted to participate in the consultation. Absolutely 'dim byd'![/quote]
The response to the other request is now published on the Welsh government site.

gov.wales/atisn15409

There's also a response to a request about the Independent Expert Panel.

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/welsh_government_lgbtq_independe#incoming-1871831

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