I don't get it

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In the BBC's story yesterday about Ofcom/Stonewall, there was a reference to whether single-sex toilets should be accessible to 'people of the opposite sex who identify as trans' and the TRAs on Twitter lost their shit about it and claimed it was misgendering. How? In what way is it not factual?

The story has now been changed to read 'accessible to transgender people'. That doesn't even make sense because the debate is about their sex. No problem with a transgender person who is male going into the men's is there? Or a trans man in the women's loos.

I know why they do it - because sex must be replaced by gender etc etc but I don't think even a year ago such a response to the mention of trans people being the opposite sex to the gender they identify with would have been so widespread. Isn't that the bloody definition? So tired of it all.

Anything that brings in to stark relief what their actual position is, causes them much psychological pain.
It would to me to, if I was blindly supporting the most regressive, unhinged, misognyistic, anit science, anti free speach, neoliberal, anti human and anit life bullshit to see the light of day since the early middle ages, luckly for me, Im not.

Because they've been told by people they trust that certain words and phrases indicate hate. They are (mostly) not pretending to think this to shut down debate, they've been taught that to mention a trans persons sex is as offensive as calling someone a racial or homophobic slur. This has literally made female people talking about the reality of being of the female set not the male sex impossible for them to engage with because it can only be seen as an act of hate for them.

This is exactly right and a really important point i think. It's why it's difficult to even begin to discuss it, and why we are finding ourselves on the back foot.

carryononmarion
Hello. This board is a good place to start. Op has given you the 'break it down' thread. You can also search threads on this board for key words. In advanced search put in your words, then choose to search a 'specific topic'. Tick feminism: sex and gender debates. Then search.

There are campaign groups which have sprung up to talk about the conflict in rights between trans rights (as currently being campaigned for) and women's rights. Fair play for women. A woman's place uk. And a newer one called Sex Matters. There are others too. You should be able to get some background and understanding of the reach there.

There are also groups for people who are concerned in midwifery/birth/breastfeeding, and social work, if either of those are relevant.

Because people in journalism have jobs that depend on clicks. And clicks of outrage are more likely to lead to engagement and attention than clicks of approval.

That's actually about all there is to it from a media point of view. I can't count the number of times I have read a crazy headline on twitter, jumped on it and found the article is much more measured. Hate myself for it.