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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Irish times on Saturday

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ohnoitsagruffalo · 23/08/2021 14:07

Did anyone see emer mclysaght in the weekend magazine section? "When will we just leave transgender people to get on with their lives?" All the usual nonsense about comparing it to the gay rights fight and a "trans woman with a birth cert that states she is a woman is not harming you". So fed up of these people completely missing the point. She also talks about how she bought into the diet industry believing that inside every person there's a thin person trying to get out. Cos nobody is making money off the trans ideology Hmm oh and apparently trans people have existed since ancient times...not a mention of her source for this tho. I don't know why I read it cos I'm cross now

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ThisIsJeopardy · 23/08/2021 15:12

What an utterly stupid article.

I may have felt distress because I believed that my body was portraying or betraying me as something I’m not, but society has never looked at me and said “you’re XX” when I knew I was XY.

Is this how far we're taking the science denial now? Asserting that trans identifying people 'know' their actual sex chromosomes are one thing, when they are objectively and factually the other? The actual XX or XY chromosomes ? What nonsense.

ohnoitsagruffalo · 23/08/2021 15:52

Its so ridiculous

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Thelnebriati · 23/08/2021 16:01

Its especially enraging from a country that has policed women's bodies so ruthlessly.

Jaysmith71 · 23/08/2021 16:05

Sir Bob Geldof's "Banana Republic" would seem apposite.

Take your hand and lead you
Up a garden path
Let me stand aside here
And watch you pass

Annasgirl · 23/08/2021 16:34

Wow, that is another level of WTAF.

But the Times seems a lost cause - even if they publish Stella O'Malley, they seem to have gone down the Guardian path.

I never read the Saturday section - I have a subscription but often wonder why.

On the other hand, Brenda Power had a good article in last week's Sunday Times that referenced the crazy erasure of women from the HSE and from maternity services. It seems like, as per the UK, the Sunday Times are more open to the GC position.

Abhannmor · 23/08/2021 19:41

Not much mileage left in the OMGWACA franchise I'm guessing. Got to stay relevant and edgy. Is the FB page still extant? I don't think these two are the brightest. But they seem to think they carried Repeal all by themselves.

MadamBatty · 23/08/2021 19:45

The Irish Times has turned into a rag…they republish lots of Guardian stuff.

I used to love the hard copy of the IT on a Saturday with a cup of coffee, I won’t even click on them anymore

MadamBatty · 23/08/2021 19:45

Lots of puff opinion pieces presented as fact.

PearlyBird · 23/08/2021 19:48

Blimey, from the intellectual heavyweight who wrote those Complete Aisling books.

ohnoitsagruffalo · 23/08/2021 19:59

Oh is that who she is! Glad I haven't bought any of those books now Grin i still buy the weekend edition mainly cos I don't know what else to buy..can't buy the guardian anymore. But they had a pretty ok piece a month or so ago which was more balanced so I thought they were a bit better ... there was a thread about it here at the time. I also like reading the letters to the editor because there is often very well written letters from gender critical women

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ohnoitsagruffalo · 23/08/2021 20:01

This one ..I can't get in as I don't have an account.

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