Need to get in touch with the Dept of Gender Assignment

[Arseholery]

DD3 is heading off to University, and was filling in the form to access the University Health Centre.

They need to know her gender.

Further investigation by us (we clicked the little I icon) reveals that this can be either the gender assigned at birth OR the gender registered at her current GP.

I got to musing, I don't recall any official assignation of her gender, though I was completely buckled on pethidine, so I may have missed this. DH doesn't remember either and he'd had no drugs at all.

So obviously we'll have to contact the GP shortly to find out.

But, as I said, musing: who do I ask about my gender assigned at birth, sadly mom is no longer with us and dad was at a football match god bless the seventies.

In absolute seriousness, though, if this information is important enough to be needed on Medical applications, then it shouldn't be some nebulous concept, but an actual verifiable, documented detail for each person.

This stuff is ridiculous.

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I feel like a total failure as a doctor. I must have done many hundreds, maybe even thousands, of baby checks in my career. I have observed/recorded the sex so many times. On a couple of occasions I have arranged urgent investigations (ultrasound, chromosomes) to establish or confirm the sex, where there was a disorder of sexual differentiation. But not once have I assigned a gender. I am so sorry.

OP, fatal mistake...you thought a woke University form would be straightforward.

I'm surprised it wasn't even more inclusive...it did not include the gender that she may feel as she/he/they/insert any term starts her course, or even at graduation?

Got to love inclusively...it's all so bonkers fluid!

@nocoolnamesleft

I feel like a total failure as a doctor. I must have done many hundreds, maybe even thousands, of baby checks in my career. I have observed/recorded the sex so many times. On a couple of occasions I have arranged urgent investigations (ultrasound, chromosomes) to establish or confirm the sex, where there was a disorder of sexual differentiation. But not once have I assigned a gender. I am so sorry.

Can't believe you're still able to practice with such FAILURES

@nocoolnamesleft

I feel like a total failure as a doctor. I must have done many hundreds, maybe even thousands, of baby checks in my career. I have observed/recorded the sex so many times. On a couple of occasions I have arranged urgent investigations (ultrasound, chromosomes) to establish or confirm the sex, where there was a disorder of sexual differentiation. But not once have I assigned a gender. I am so sorry.

Tut. Surely you were issued with an NHS approved gender assignation coin on qualification? Dead easy to use I am told, just flick and catch. Of course a coin isn’t enough now as it only offers two options , these days you need a random gender generating app on your phone .

@WeAreTheWomen

Maybe you should question their ability to provide appropriate health care if they dont know someone's sex! Or is the Health Centre being run by unqualified students who have never studied basic biology.

Tjere was a free form box and I wanted her put that her mom was drugged up and couldn't remember the assignation, so she was happy to be F like her sex.

But she's 18 and doesn't want a marker against her name .

I'm 50 and IDGAF, can't wait for someone to ask me the same.

Gleefully rubbing my hands together right now...

Love this bit: I wanted her put that her mom was drugged up and couldn't remember the assignation, so she was happy to be F like her sex. If the opportunity presents itself, I may use it.

I was looking at DS1s birth certificate earlier (enrolling him at college, not randomly). Not only did the midwife forget to assign him a gender at birth, the registrar ONLY recorded his sex on his BC.
I think I need to make a formal complaint.

To quote the Belle Stars, this is assign of the times.

Further investigation by us (we clicked the little I icon) reveals that this can be either the gender assigned at birth OR the gender registered at her current GP.

You may be surprised to know that c2010 the NHS assigned patients a 'gender identity' and removed the record of their sex. This is despite previous NHS risk assessments warning, “The term ‘Gender’ is now considered too ambiguous to be desirable or safe”

Anne Harper-Wright
November 2018
Sex, Gender & the NHS part 2
(extract)
"Our medical system accepts the immutability of our sex, and it isn’t about to endanger us by pretending otherwise. After all, the NHS sex and gender design guidance in 2009 was uncompromising and left little room for error.
Having ascertained what the sex fields and gender fields are in our medical records, and having read the NHS documents determining how the data should be entered and used, I was confident that my own personal medical record would reflect the safety guidance. And perhaps look something like the linked examples above:
e.g. Sex = Female, Gender = unknown.

I submitted my Subject Access Request to my local hospital to look at my own medical record data.

And what I found was this.
My personal medical record sex field is BLANK. Unpopulated.
In a disturbing turn of events, the hospital that cared for me in pregnancy and childbirth, twice, doesn’t know what physical sex I am.
It is sure, however, that I have a ladybrain, though. Because there it is on my medical record. I have definitely never discussed my inner femininity with any doctor that I recall. I don’t remember asking that my adherence to stereotypes, or ladybrain mentality be captured on my medical record. Nevertheless, here it is, my female ‘gender identity’ that I didn’t know I had: (see screen shot )
medium.com/@anneharperwright/sex-gender-the-nhs-bb86b0c3ebb

[quote Jaysmith71]To quote the Belle Stars, this is assign of the times.

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@R0wantrees, that is annoying to see and dangerous to society. The NHS is supposed to support health and provide clinical care based on scientific reasoning and yet in picking ambiguous gender over defined sex, people won't receive appropriate advice and treatment.

Looks like crazy decision making from scared people appeasing a screaming bunch of TRAs.

I wasn’t assigned nuffink. Who shall I sue?

It's madness, R0wantrees. Thanks for the reminder that the whole UK population has presumably been 'assigned' a gender identity even if they dont' have one, while their sex has been quietly vanished.

@ArabellaScott

It's madness, R0wantrees. Thanks for the reminder that the whole UK population has presumably been 'assigned' a gender identity even if they dont' have one, while their sex has been quietly vanished.

Maybe the next big movement beyond the NHS privacy action should be for people to ask for the reinstatement of sex not gender on their NHS records.

I think that's essential, Embarrassing. I don't know where we would actually start with that. Which bit of the NHS is responsible for making that kind of decision?

If a petition to parliament is started I'd sign it, but I'm not in a position to be outed as a supporter for sex based rights what an unfree time to live in.