More male violence

[76FDre421]

Tragic news that a man has murdered his own little boy. I find the reporting of this troubling in that it seems to be going to great lengths to not represent the murderer as a murderer.
Men who kill their own family and then go on to kill themselves are still murderers. To take your own child’s life, it’s beyond comprehension. The media tiptoeing around the issue approach to reporting it almost normalises it. It happens way too often as it is. Why do these men (and it is ALWAYS men) have to take innocent children with them? It’s pure evil.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-58263531

I agree op but mumsnet hq have just deleted a thread on this - so I expect this will go also 💥

Why would they delete it? I’m talking about the media / BBC reporting, as opposed to the details of the murder itself.

"Local MP Mark Garnier said the thought of police attending and finding one of their own "breaks my heart"."
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-58215075

OP they kill the children and themselves to punish the woman. Imagine having to live the rest of your life without your child due to the violence of their father. You can't punish the father or see justice because he took the cowards way out. Ongoing abuse even after death.

thread deleted

Message from MNHQ: Hi all, we feel there's too much speculation on this thread about an ongoing case, so we've removed it.

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These are the reasons they gave @76FDre421

I do think it's time the media got its act together on the reporting of family annihilators,

The MP quote above was from 4 days before the murder was announced, and although I'd assumed it was a murder/suicide, I would not have stated that publicly if I was an MP. So I feel is naivety rather than condoning male violence.

Yes, very naive if that MP it was a foolish thing to say in hindsight. Also arrogance that police officers don't commit domestic abuse.

Yes maybe it is naivety- though as soon as I saw the initial report I immediately guessed it would be this. Most women will have suspected the same. There is no excuse now though, to misreport it and to direct sympathy towards the man who murdered. That poor little boy. And yes, his poor family that have to live with this now.

That news report is just awful. All the talk of the “poor chap”. FFS. It’s also completely inconsistent with the reporting about the Plymouth killer. I don’t get it.

Someone or something —his wife —made him do it. It’s not because he’s a murdering bastard…,something or done one made him that way ~a woman~

Strike through fail - sorry

Just dreadful. I had thought it was maybe CO poisoning or something, not this, especially as early reports hadn't really indicated any family issues.

However I have been looking at Google and apparently (in America at least) murder - suicides seem to disproportionately involve police officers.

It makes my heart hurt.

Why do these men (and it is ALWAYS men) have to take innocent children with them?
Because if they just offed themselves, it would nine times out of ten be doing the woman they want to punish a favour, basically.
Mawkish twaddle from the MP, but what else would one expect?

The soft-soaping involved here is, I suspect, down to the murderer being a serving police officer.

The force involved will have closed ranks and stifled the details provided to the press. There’ll have been much less leaking than normal because they’re, as almost always, protecting one of their own.

If he was Joe Public it would be attracting much more lurid headlines and poking around into his motivations.

The BBC headline is now "Police officer and son's deaths in Kidderminster were murder-suicide".

Like AfternoonToffee I hoped it would be something like CO poisoning, but also suspected a family annihilator.

I do think the media should stop describing these as 'isolated and tragic incidents'. Just because the murderers are unknown to each other, the murdered are always their children (and sometimes their wives and partners too). There's a pattern. A clearly visible pattern.

Their motives are always one of two -

1. murder the children to punish the wife, or
2. murder the children and wife because he's so narcissistic he believes they cannot/won't want to continue living after his death by suicide (often because he's lost his job/gambled their money away/lost status in some undefinable way).

I do believe that if the media called a spade a spade, called the murderer a murderer, it could help. Whilst they continue to peddle the lie that the murder was tragically driven and saw no way out, men will continue to see themselves in this way. No. They are spiteful and self-absorbed and inadequate. If THAT was reported, maybe fewer men would cast themselves in the role.