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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Femicide - article in Observer today

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catzwhiskas · 15/08/2021 10:54

Good article by Karen Ingala Smith today on femicide in UK. Strange that only four comments have been allowed.
www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/15/victims-of-femicide-are-shamefully-ignored-in-strategy-on-violence-against-women?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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Artichokeleaves · 15/08/2021 11:16

Is anyone going to join the dots on for example, oh just off the top of my head....

  • natal male people leading a movement to 're educate' female people out of their issues with having natal male people triggering their trauma in rape crisis and refuges solely for the benefit of said natal male people's freedom of choice
  • twitter absolutely chock full of threats of sexual violence and murder to women for saying things like facts other twitter users don't agree with
  • police arresting women for traumatising others with coloured ribbons and stating biological fact, while a natal male student can openly and explicitly sexually fantasise in a university about holding a knife to women's throats, making them scream and terrorising them for.... declining to believe and say what that natal male person would like them to
  • female spaces removed and turned mixed sex for the better freedom of choice and happiness of natal male people with female needs, feelings and exclusions not only disregarded with mindboggling inequality, but those women actually told off for daring to voice their needs
  • rape pretty much decriminalised
  • 2-3 women murdered a week and .... while idiots talk on radio (natal males again) about how it's just domestic violence 'gone wrong' (wtaf) and down to females having silly egg shell skulls...

Could this absolute ruddy wave of poisonous misogyny be anything to do, perhaps, with the situation this week?

WhoNeedsaManOfTheWorld · 15/08/2021 11:24

Artichokeleaves
It's frustrating isn't it
Add to your list the commodification of women and children and the language used when babies are purchased

Artichokeleaves · 15/08/2021 11:34

Ooh yes.

And the commandeering of all words for female people for the use of natal male people's wider choice and freedom and self expression, reducing female people to dehumanised, biological bits.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 15/08/2021 11:43

And the commandeering of all words for female people for the use of natal male people's wider choice and freedom and self expression, reducing female people to dehumanised, biological bits

Or making us invisible entirely thus incapable of properly articulating the 'fem' in femicide.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 15/08/2021 11:59

This is why we need the analysis of researchers like Ingala-Smith and O'Callaghan.

Failure to view Davison’s killing spree within the context of femicide means that we do not look for the links between him killing his mother, Maxine Davison, and the nine other UK women we have identified with their son as the suspect in their murder so far this year. In fact, in the UK, women who are mothers are more likely to be killed by a son than by a stranger.

That last sentence…and yet, here on FWR, we have commenters claiming that this latest event is a random set of killings. That it's unrelated to the distributed morphic resonance of disaffected and angry young men, because men, too, died in this latest incident.

There are patterns in events like this and we're failing to act on them even when they're recognised.

archive of article for those who don't click Guardian :archive.is/92FOS

Anotheruser02 · 15/08/2021 13:34

I used to think that feminism had done its job. I was naive, I'm realising how subhuman we are.
I hope one day in our lifetime women become visible and deemed worth preserving.

I keep checking into the story coming out of Camden last night too where three women and a man were shot, I wonder what motive will be for that.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 15/08/2021 14:36

I used to think that feminism had done its job.

A theme that I'm hearing a lot recently is how on the backfoot people feel having to defend things for which there is no longer a readily available corpus of arguments and knowledge because the advantages of it were taken to be self-evident in the setting of largely agreed liberal democratic frameworks.

And this is why the right to freedom of thoughts, speech, association and so many basic principles are now having to be discussed and reinvigorated again.

Feminism is somewhat unusual in that we seem to need to evangelise for the freedoms of 2nd wave feminism rather than what has passed for feminism and the 3rd and 4th waves.

WeAreTheWomen · 15/08/2021 15:46

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RubyGoat · 15/08/2021 15:56

There are only 3 comments now... obviously one of them has been subjected to furthe scrutiny, & found to be at fault. Hmm

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 15/08/2021 15:58

Owen Jones has taken it upon himself to explain what incel culture is. As someone on facebook commentated, Allowing the arch incel who is enabled by mainstream media to "explain" what incel is, is mansplanning at is most extreme.

I can't bear to look. Would I be badly awry if I speculated that OJ's explainer for "incel culture" is emphatically that it is not what women think it is and see in their own relationships (family, social, work etc.)? Further, that it dovetails well with what Owen Jones needs it to be in order to fully exculpate his vision of himself?

WeAreTheWomen · 15/08/2021 22:59

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