Dad had his first email with pronouns stated...

[Sittinginthesand]

We’ve never discussed the issues before, he brought it up, it was an email from a charity he does stuff with from a woman he doesn’t know with a clearly female name. In his reply he said that he was interested to read her pronouns and wondered what the form would be for the Queen as she uses the third person, he is imagining we/us 🤣. He is thought it was very silly and knew all about what is happening in Scotland to civil servants. Gave me hope that the more it’s pushed the more people will be aware and push back (or just laugh and puncture the pomposity of it like my 70+ Dad).

I think I love your dad

That's great

I want we/us as my pronouns now !

Yes, I'm all for puncturing pompsity, particularly this type. In a kind way with humour is definitely best

People should start pushing back more. It’s just so difficult in a work environment I understand why people don’t.
It is so silly that you would call yourself Emma or Paul and then insist on pronouns that people wouldn’t attach to them. If someone does that they want the drama.

I don't think people realise that adding pronouns outs you as a bit of a narcissist. Also with a hint of coercive control? Fretting about how others may refer to you when you're not there and desperate to control their language.
They really haven't thought this through

@MrsOvertonsWindow or ours you as someone who goes along with a trend without thinking deeply about it.

Indeed MsMarvellous. There's a total lack of critical thinking with all of this isn't there?
I suppose that's why enforcement happens via bullying, threats and intimidation. Very few would willingly go along with this anti fact, anti science and anti women rhetoric if they weren't afraid.

The person who l for their pronouns on for a meeting i was in was asked to explain why, and thanks to you lot I managed to raise that it was detrimental to women. They have not appeared with them again. Probably just keeping them for work.

@MsMarvellous @MrsOvertonsWindow

Absolutely. I see pronouns as red flags for lack of critical thinking, narcissism and lack of integrity. These are not desirable professional traits.

If I clock this, I’m sure some of the upper management are clocking this also. Even if they appear to go along with it and not say anything.

If only the pronoun’ed ones have the self awareness to realise this. But they tend to believe in their own delusions of ‘being kind/inclusive/your true authentic self’’ etc., especially when validated by echo chambers.

OP, your Dad is brilliant.

We need more people with sense of humour in the younger generations.

This is a primary school within my area: www.ajkfed.com/
To be honest I think it would put me off the school rather than think 'oh how nice and inclusive'. I would also wonder what they were teaching the children...

Gosh. Yes, I agree @TeenMinusTests.

Sittinginthesand dad 👍

We/us/one. The Queen gets three because well, she's the Queen

These are my personal life processes: movement, reproduction, sensitivity, nutrition, excretion, respiration, growth
My pronouns are Mrs/Nerg.

Be rest assured I keep reproduction out of the professional sphere

@MrsOvertonsWindow

I don't think people realise that adding pronouns outs you as a bit of a narcissist. Also with a hint of coercive control? Fretting about how others may refer to you when you're not there and desperate to control their language. They really haven't thought this through

Either that or as a gullible sheep.

Still chuckling over what your dad said, OP. You are one lucky woman.

I don't really mind it, but I definitely now want to be we/us.

@Sittinginthesand

We’ve never discussed the issues before, he brought it up, it was an email from a charity he does stuff with from a woman he doesn’t know with a clearly female name. In his reply he said that he was interested to read her pronouns and wondered what the form would be for the Queen as she uses the third person, he is imagining we/us 🤣. He is thought it was very silly and knew all about what is happening in Scotland to civil servants. Gave me hope that the more it’s pushed the more people will be aware and push back (or just laugh and puncture the pomposity of it like my 70+ Dad).

The Queen doesn't use third person though, she uses first person plural. We/us is first person plural.

All of us use first-person pronouns, surely. I use the pronouns I/me, for example. In my experience, almost everyone uses I/me as their pronouns. It is rare to talk about oneself in the third person.

Oddly, when people specify "their" pronouns, they aren't specifying the pronouns they use for themselves, but those that they demand that others use when speaking about them.

In the case of the Queen, I'm not sure whether her preferred pronouns are she/her or the quasi-pronominal circumlocations Her Majesty/Her Majesty.

Perhaps someday we will have a nonbinary monarch whose preferred quasi-pronominal circumlocations are Their Majesty/Their Majesty. (Oddly, convention dictates that both the subject and object form of the pronoun be given, e.g. "he/him", "she/her" - even though giving only one of the two would be entirely adequate... unless of course there are people who mix and match, who are masculine in the subject form and feminine in the object and vice versa - "he/her", "She/him"?)

*circumlocution

Dh was told he has to use pronouns at work now, he's chosen 'gardener'

That's true, we all use pronouns.

I will make mine:

I/me/you

May I make mine:

You/Who(?)!

Or, on a bad day:

Twit/Twoo!