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Yesterday I identified as Male...

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Davros · 24/07/2021 15:36

DH and I have a joint credit card. He is the main cardholder so they won't engage with me although I'm sure they'd come after me if the bills didn't get paid. I realise it could be the other way round but it isn't. I phoned them to request they revert to paper statements and said I'd do the preliminary bit and then hand the phone to him.
"Full name and date of birth?", easy, I know this
"Mother's maiden name?" As above
"Am I speaking to Barry X?" The divilment got into me so I said "yes, I am Barry X" in my very female voice.
We completed a straightforward, helpful phone call. I thought, they can't really suggest that I'm not him any more however I sound heh heh. I was tempted to request they change my/his account to F but thought I can just carry on saying I'm him from now on.
Maybe they just have to prove they asked the question

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 24/07/2021 18:29

I attended a work medical recently.

I was misgendered on the invitation letter and despite pointing it out repeatedly, it was not changed on subsequent communications.

I turned up and was greeted as a Mr. Apart from a stray chin hair I don’t present as male at all.

I did point out their mistake but was told they go by the information they have on file. (No problem with being female on previous medicals)

It was ridiculous.

During the medical I got asked when I’d had my prostrate checked. I asked if that was the prostrate that lived next to my cervix.

I pointed out that not asking about my ‘female’ health was neglectful and insulting.

The fear of misgendering someone I understand. Being corrected and still being too scared to change their stance is worrying.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 24/07/2021 18:37

I should point out, I was born female. I still am female.

A typing error was enough to fluster someone.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 24/07/2021 18:40

That's terrifying SheldonesqueTheBstard That medics are so far down the rabbit hole that they'll risk looking like delusional prats in front of patients rather than ask a straightforward question. It really highlights some warped ethical standards.

ittakes2 · 24/07/2021 18:45

You do realise its illegal to pretend to be your husband to access your accounts? I don't think you should be boasting about it on an international website.

BingBongSong · 24/07/2021 18:50

Nice to see a bit of Man Friday going on. It's a bit grubby now but I'm very fond of my crochet bag.

Yesterday I identified as Male...
Nellodee · 24/07/2021 18:54

They really SHOULD have flagged this up as potential fraud though, and it's quite worrying that they didn't.

Incidentally, despite my attempts at rectifying the error, I am recorded with the NHS as Bishop Nellodee.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 24/07/2021 18:55

It was bewildering at first. I made a joke of it on meeting them and was dutifully ignored. I truly thought they hadn’t heard me.

To not be heard when I pointed out the mistake was astonishing.

To walk out was not an option. Certain tests are compulsory and a refusal could well end in dismissal.

Quite frankly though, the professionalism was questionable in the first place. I’ve never had a medical where people were allowed to wander in and out of a room (hired for the occasion) to collect various bits and bobs either.

A concise email has been sent to my manager.

Davros · 24/07/2021 19:11

@ittakes2

You do realise its illegal to pretend to be your husband to access your accounts? I don't think you should be boasting about it on an international website.
They can come after me if they like, they certainly would if they wanted money. The point isn’t that OP lied, but that people now aren’t allowed to question a lie. This is what I'm trying to point out
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NiceGerbil · 24/07/2021 19:19

Yes the real problem here is not the bank saying ok hi dave (or whatever) what can I do for you but the OP being naughty.

Voices are not very reliable even before all this and loads of couples know their partners pets pins etc..

The real issue here is why do loads of utilities still only allow for one rather than joint customers?

It can also be an issue with proving address etc for other things if you're not named on the bills.

JonBinary · 24/07/2021 19:23

@ittakes2

You do realise its illegal to pretend to be your husband to access your accounts? I don't think you should be boasting about it on an international website.
Hardly boasting. Just pointing out a security flaw. Which I'm sure has already been done quite a few times. The op hasn't given out any personal info have they. So i doubt they have much to worry about.
Davros · 24/07/2021 19:32

I just wanted to see if it would work, I didn't expect it to. DH was sitting here, primed and ready for action

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NiceGerbil · 24/07/2021 19:40

The people having s go at OP rather than having concern about the company security.

Blimey.

LouHotel · 24/07/2021 19:49

Our sky is in husbands name and he keeps forgetting to re negotiate. I'm doing this on Sunday.

noirchatsdeux · 24/07/2021 20:00

I've done this recently. Company that my partner has repeatedly asked to put on the records that I'm allowed to deal with the account - every time I ring up as myself I'm refused access. I know all the security details (I was the one who set it up) so nowadays I say I'm him. Sometimes I get cross examined to within an inch of my life, but as I know all the details there's not a lot they can do. No one has come out and said 'but you're female' - I suppose nowadays they just can't.

Mockolate · 24/07/2021 20:11

@ittakes2

You do realise its illegal to pretend to be your husband to access your accounts? I don't think you should be boasting about it on an international website.
This.
Thelnebriati · 24/07/2021 20:55

boasting. about. it. on. an. international. website.

Fucking dying here 🤣

NiceGerbil · 24/07/2021 21:04

Me too inebriati!

OMG! An anonymous woman on a sub board on a site predominantly for UK women to talk about all sorts of stuff

Has revealed this about an unnamed company!

She essentially conned her way into her own household's account to discuss her gas bill (internet, whatever).

This is INTERNATIONAL CRIME!

call Interpol! Call in the feds! Where's 007???

Grin
Wester · 24/07/2021 21:08

I always speak to others as my husband, done it for HMRC, pensions and bank accounts.

Just easier and far less hassle.

KittenKong · 24/07/2021 21:13

I ordered some things online and had to collect them in person. I noticed that I had put ‘Mr KittenKong’. No one batted an eyelid. Not sure if I should have been offended that no one asked me...

Mockolate · 24/07/2021 21:23

@NiceGerbil

Me too inebriati!

OMG! An anonymous woman on a sub board on a site predominantly for UK women to talk about all sorts of stuff

Has revealed this about an unnamed company!

She essentially conned her way into her own household's account to discuss her gas bill (internet, whatever).

This is INTERNATIONAL CRIME!

call Interpol! Call in the feds! Where's 007???

Grin

You're missing the point by miles here. It is a crime to pretend to be someone else to access financial information.
Thelnebriati · 24/07/2021 21:31

So what happened to make companies ignore an obvious wrong voice instead of flagging it as fraud, do you think?

MrsFin · 24/07/2021 21:55

If you're in the UK, its probably because a joint credit card doesn't exist

I know that now, but not when we applied. We both have credit cards for the same account though.

MrsFin · 24/07/2021 21:58

@FlyPassed

I wondered about this. I worked in a financial services call centre years ago and wives and PAs regularly used to try to access their husbands/bosses.

I'm pretty sure I would have been disciplined if I had discussed an account with someone who was obviously not the customer. I guess it would be the reverse now, but I can't fathom how that works in terms of fraud prevention and customer complaints.

I do make calls sometimes and pretend to be my mother. She's 90 and not confident in calling herself.
No dodgy dealings, she's usually worth me when I call, it's just easier to say I'm her.

Yesindeedydoodey · 24/07/2021 22:01

Were you in the toilet pretending to be a male? If not, I don't see that any major crime was done. :)

Davros · 24/07/2021 22:09

call Interpol! Call in the feds! Where's 007??? I'm going on the run

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