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The End Of The World Is Flat

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 17/07/2021 08:43

Anyone else read this?

It’s by Simon Edge and is a satire on something very familiar…

The premise is that a small campaigning charity achieves all its goals so rather than wind the charity up and make all the staff redundant it takes on a new cause, promoting belief in a flat earth.

I am about a quarter through, so far very funny and sharp and I am enjoying it very much as I think many people on here would.

The Kindle edition is out and is not expensive.

Amazon link though I think you can order from the publisher too.

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Melroses · 17/07/2021 09:09

That sounds fun. Hopefully a bit of light relief Grin

It is a small publisher so I will order the book from them.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 18/07/2021 10:58

Yes, it is much needed light relief. While also being quite thought-provoking about how this can have happened.

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OvaHere · 18/07/2021 10:59

I have this on order. Looking forward to reading it.

KevinBaconsJeans · 02/08/2021 07:47

I read it at the weekend, it's a good fun read. A few years ago i would have thought it totally implausible but not now!

ThinkIveFoundYourMarbles · 02/08/2021 08:20

Ordered it! Sounds like an interesting read.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 02/08/2021 08:25

Enjoy it!

The more I think about the more insightful I think it is. The stuff about how people were persuaded to use the TERG slur before they even knew what it meant is rather interesting.

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AnotherLass · 02/08/2021 10:22

I read it, it's thoroughly enjoyable - funny and well crafted. The twitter conversations were the best bit in my opinion.

However I did think that there was a bit of a lack of an understanding of the psychology in there, which was the weak point - he clearly hasn't known many flat earthers (or similar) and clearly finds them totally incomprehensible. He was trying to come up with these cost benefit explanations for people believing mad shit, and it doesn't work like that.

KevinBaconsJeans · 02/08/2021 11:58

That's interesting @AnotherLass. Can you elaborate?

Birdsweepsin · 08/06/2022 09:42

I've just finished the book, so apologies for resurrecting a zombie thread, but I wanted to comment on the point above.

I kind of agree, but in a way its because there isn't really any equivalent to the changes of the last few years.

There are religions of course, some more beneficent than others. But most of us understand that the foundations of religion are faith, and that is something unproveable.

In this case, gender ideology is convincing otherwise sane people to believe something that is actually untrue.

So Edge has had to come up with a parallel - flat earth-ism - that also involves people believing something that isn't true. And of course it feels artificial.

If anything it just confirms that the utterly batshit era we are living through is as unusual as we all think it is.

abc5432 · 08/06/2022 10:37

Off to download that on to my Kindle. It was published in 2021 so the real life parallel seems crystal clear.

Fenlandia · 08/06/2022 11:09

Great read, highly recommended. Simon Edge is a very astute commentator on Twitter too

DisappearingGirl · 08/06/2022 20:17

The Twitter bits are hilarious! But all too realistic

Birdsweepsin · 10/06/2022 18:49

It has made me question who are the puppets and who is behind all this.

GoodThinkingMax · 10/06/2022 18:59

I read this when it first came out and really enjoyed it.

although the ending is waaaay too optimistic but we can but live in hope, keep campaigning and keep gardening.

Wifwolf · 10/06/2022 21:37

I’ve ordered a copy. Excited to get it!

nepeta · 10/06/2022 21:51

I just bought it and look forward to reading it tonight.

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 10/06/2022 21:58

Excellent book. Look at the names of some of the flat earthers & see if you can spot parallels.

nepeta · 10/06/2022 22:03

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 10/06/2022 21:58

Excellent book. Look at the names of some of the flat earthers & see if you can spot parallels.

That sounds fun! I started on Holly Lawford-Smith's book yesterday and need to finish it today, then the flat earth. Do we have a book discussion group on Mumsnet?

TheBiologyStupid · 17/08/2022 20:56

Fenlandia · 08/06/2022 11:09

Great read, highly recommended. Simon Edge is a very astute commentator on Twitter too

+1

It's interesting to note who he dedicated it to, and how the optimistic outcome is s-l-o-w-l-y becoming more plausible.

TirisfalPumpkin · 18/08/2022 07:19

I read it recently and some of the spoofed names made me lol in public (Lateefa Lateef!)

can see the point about the psychology of flat-earthism / not being an exact parallel to gender woo but I’m struggling to think of anything better. It was educational re how botting works on Twitter.

DarkDayforMN · 18/08/2022 07:42

I really enjoyed it!

i remember thinking that he didn’t understand the misogyny driving genderism, or at least that his flat Earth allegory wasn’t able to capture that aspect. I don’t know if that’s what previous posters meant about the psychology but I think that’s where the psychological plausibility of it all flat for me.

But then I think a more psychologically honest exploration of the phenomenon would have been a very different and much darker book. Maybe this one is best off being the lighthearted book it is!

undermilkjug · 18/08/2022 07:57

I haven't read that book - although it sounds good - thanks!

Just in the background point, I was reading Black and British by David Olusoga and think there are parallels with the 'scientific' racism of the 19th century when a lot of apparently well educated and sensible people were adamant that black people were inferior based on phrenology or similar completely garbage theories but which were used to justify their racism.

RoyalCorgi · 18/08/2022 09:33

That sounds fun! I started on Holly Lawford-Smith's book yesterday and need to finish it today, then the flat earth. Do we have a book discussion group on Mumsnet?

There is a "What we're reading" forum, so we could start a thread on there - or on here. I've read Lawford-Smith's book, Kathleen Stock's book and Helen Joyce's book and enjoyed them all. Simon Edge was the one book that really cheered me up, though, because it so brilliantly highlights the insanity of it all. It confirmed for me that yes, it's not me who's mad, it's them.

Emotionalsupportviper · 18/08/2022 19:04

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 17/07/2021 08:43

Anyone else read this?

It’s by Simon Edge and is a satire on something very familiar…

The premise is that a small campaigning charity achieves all its goals so rather than wind the charity up and make all the staff redundant it takes on a new cause, promoting belief in a flat earth.

I am about a quarter through, so far very funny and sharp and I am enjoying it very much as I think many people on here would.

The Kindle edition is out and is not expensive.

Amazon link though I think you can order from the publisher too.

Yes - I've read it.

I thought it was very cleverly done, and also showed how very vulnerable we are to disinformation, even about things that are provably true.

I am tempted to change my MN name to "Rampant Globularist", but I like being a Viper.

Chasingthefrog · 18/08/2022 19:11

KevinBaconsJeans · 02/08/2021 07:47

I read it at the weekend, it's a good fun read. A few years ago i would have thought it totally implausible but not now!

My thoughts exactly!

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