Colin Pitchfork will be released

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-57737050

It seems that gaining a degree and learning how to transcribe braille is sufficient to persuade a parole board that you are no longer a danger to women and girls. He is only 61, he could have many years of offending left before him.

I read Allison Bailey's tweets this morning about her opinion on this and what that sick depraved fuck did, absolutely horrible. Those poor girls

If there happens to be a situation where he is found by vigilantes, well, I wouldn't be standing in their way put it like that.

Why can nothing be done to ensure he never sees outside of a cell again, why? Why are there not special circumstances to override outdated laws in favour of people who should never ever be released?

Parole Board need to hang their heads in shame.

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Why can nothing be done to ensure he never sees outside of a cell again, why? Why are there not special circumstances to override outdated laws in favour of people who should never ever be released? “

There has been a case in the news recently about a man in Munich, wearing a wolf mask, who raped an 11 year old girl in broad daylight- dragging her into bushes.

He had a previous history of sexual assault. His sentence was only something like 12 or 14 years too, but I think there is something in the sentencing to say he would be kept in custody afterwards.

I am not sure what that means or how it would work. Perhaps another poster would know German laws relating to this approach.4

He had a previous history of sexual assault. His sentence was only something like 12 or 14 years too, but I think there is something in the sentencing to say he would be kept in custody afterwards

You are right, he got 12 years for the rape. Had a history of sex offending before the rape. Tried to claim mental illness as a defence. The recent sentencing includes a requirement for preventive custody (or preventive detention) which is based solely on the dangerousness of the offender, rather than the guilt of the offender (although he is guilty too, obviously). It is used as a purely preventive measure for the protection of the general public.

I don't know any more about how it works in detail, but that's the gist.

I hugely disagree that he should be released but I'm guessing that the reason has alot to do with finance.
Think of the amount of prison places available. I've heard that only a third of the people that should be incarcerated are actually.
It costs a collosal amount in security and such to house these offenders.
Even with this in mind, I very much wish for him to be kept in.
However, it's been said that he is going to be watched very closely when he is let out and will require supervision in some amount and a intense risk assessment will have taken place. He is going to be very heavily monitored and will be restricted to certain areas.
That will cost a fortune and makes me question whether or not they should just keep the bastard in prison. The legal system doesn't work like that though, sadly.

@Thevenerableswede

How on earth can they tell that he is no longer a risk to women and girls? If only we could tell as easily who are the dangerous ones. With this man’s history it is clear that he is unlikely to change . I’d be really interested to know how he is going to be monitored and by whom.. I have no trust that we will be safe.

I would think the court will consult pschologists and the like and have multi disciplinary meetings. I personally think the risk is too big though. I think he should be in until he dies.

This case reminds me a little of David McGreavy because he too was released recently and he killed a family of beautiful children. Disgusting.

"Killer David McGreavy who hung child bodies on a fence cleared for release | The Scotsman" www.scotsman.com/news/crime/killer-david-mcgreavy-who-hung-child-bodies-fence-cleared-release-196057?amp

@RolloTomassi

Supposedly when asked his motives, he just said "Opportunity. She was there and I was there". Great person to put back out on the streets then

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I can barely bring myself to think about the David McGreavy case. I have two children and I can't read about what he did without feeling physically sick and panic struck. Are these men with such extreme disregard for women and children ever able to be genuinely rehabilitated? Surely if they ever had actual insight into what they had done they would kill themselves??

[quote Whatflavourjellybabyisnice]"Killer David McGreavy who hung child bodies on a fence cleared for release | The Scotsman" www.scotsman.com/news/crime/killer-david-mcgreavy-who-hung-child-bodies-fence-cleared-release-196057?amp[/quote]
Jesus what have I just read. How can anybody think that someone who could do a thing like that would ever be safe in the community? What a world we live in

I was under the impression until recently that a convicted murderer would never be released with the UK system. I was obviously wrong.
Did any one else assume the same?

@Whatflavourjellybabyisnice

I was under the impression until recently that a convicted murderer would never be released with the UK system. I was obviously wrong. Did any one else assume the same?

You could assume that, but you'd be wrong. Although our system does provide for whole life orders, they're generally only applicable in the worst cases, and if the offender is over 21.

The sentencing guidelines are published on the CPS website.

Thanks for the reply @Lockheart.

Why was my post deleted? Is it really that horrific to call for the death of a man who does not deserve to live?
Hmmmm I wander why I spend so much more time on the website where people farm fuzzy fruit?

I think not calling for violence is a reasonable blanket rule for a website to have.
It doesn’t need to reflect anyone’s judgement on what Colin Pitchfork deserves…

As part of his prison release there will have been risk assessments and risk management plans will be in place. There will also be regular multi agency risk management meetings which all aim to protect the public and they are usually successful. You just hear about the occasional times they are not, not all the successes.

Can we not protest this? Is there no way we as members of the public with teenage girls can fight on behalf of those poor lasses who lost their lives in a horrific manner.
I don't believe our legal system is dispensing justice. I think they pay lip service to the idea and that is not in any way good enough.

@ArabellaStrange

Can we not protest this? Is there no way we as members of the public with teenage girls can fight on behalf of those poor lasses who lost their lives in a horrific manner. I don't believe our legal system is dispensing justice. I think they pay lip service to the idea and that is not in any way good enough.

You can protest whatever you like, of course, but I can't see that there's any recourse to keep him in prison. Moral outrage is not a factor taken into consideration.

He was given the maximum tarrif he could have been given at the time.

If he was sentenced now he probably would get a whole life order, however he was sentenced over 30 years ago and we cannot apply the law retroactively.

He has the right to apply for parole.

The parole boards original decision (in March this year) was further scrutinised as a judicial review was brought on the grounds of irrationality by an independent QC.

That judicial review failed a few days ago as no evidence of irrationality in the boards decision was found, hence the re-emergence in the news. In other words, there is very little to suggest that the parole board has got it wrong, unless someone else wanted to bring a JR on the grounds of illegality or procedural impropriety (I believe the latter is what the original Worboys parole decision was quashed for).

As far as I can tell everything has been done properly in this case, and whilst we may not agree with him being released I don't think there is any leg to stand on in terms of the law. We don't have access to the same level of information the parole board had.

So yes, protest away, but in order to have any effect I think you'll need a lot more than "we don't agree".

will be subject to close probation supervision for life

What does this actually entail, does anyone know? Presumably he will be given a new name/identity?

He's been arrested and recalled to prison.

A Probation Service spokesperson said: "Protecting the public is our number one priority."

They added: "When offenders breach the conditions of their release and potentially pose an increased risk, we don't hesitate to return them to custody."

The PA News agency said it was understood that Pitchfork was not recalled for committing any further offences but because probation staff identified "concerning behaviours" and the step was taken as a preventative measure.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-59354638

Perhaps if a prisonor is recalled all the members of the Parole Board who released them should have to go with the prisoner to prison, until he is released again, and the same would apply to the next Parole Board who may release them.
Maybe it would focus them a bit more...

What a fucking surprise eh? Well thank fuck he's locked up again