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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

New Political Party?

31 replies

MiladyBerserko · 04/07/2021 09:18

Allison Bailey is asking about forming a new political party to defend the rights of women and children and oppose Gender Ideology.

If you are reading Allison, please do it, I beg you.

But please write the terms into the Party Charter, so that it cannot go the way of the WEP

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Thecatonthemat · 05/07/2021 00:38

I would like to see an explicitly feminist party using the Spanish feminist manifesto covering all the important issues...or we could rebrand the demands of the Women’s Liberation movement.
Manifestó June 2021
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docs.google.com/forms/d/e/viewform?fbclid=IwAR11ZjuNv2A1IxYGtSv28Od6wwY0W9aJF6JNvvz5ERn-rmzuWcbpv_J7fCA

FifteenToes · 05/07/2021 11:30

[quote Whatifitallgoesright]This is the WEP split-off. Can we just make them the real WEP and oust the other WEP? Will we need a military to do this. Has anyone got one?

www.wepsbr.com/[/quote]
That makes more sense. What would happen if all the GC feminists joined the WEP and worked towards adopting sex-based rights over trans rights as party policy? I don't know how the WEP is constituted or how smooth is the path from membership will to party policy, but it would be worth looking into.

Otherwise you're taking what is already a minority party (although women aren't a minority, the number who want to prioritise this over affiliation to Tories or Labour on more general grounds is), and splitting it into two even smaller ones. Lots of women are not GC and are happy with the TWAW stuff.

FemaleAndLearning · 05/07/2021 12:06

I'm not sure it would be a single issue party. Sex us so important on so many issues; health, education, transport, criminal justice etc.
I'm another who would say yes.

Tibtom · 05/07/2021 12:26

Lots of women are not GC and are happy with the TWAW stuff.

I don't think this is true, I think those who are TWAW either haven't thought through the implications, are burying thwir head in the sand, or are desperate for male approval.

zaramysaviour · 05/07/2021 12:41

Not a new political party - a Women's Union. (Which could field candidates for election.)

ChristinaXYZ · 05/07/2021 15:23

@TheMarzipanDildo

It’s not true that single issue/small parties don’t achieve anything because they rarely get candidates in- they can put a lot of pressure on main parties who are worried about a split vote. I think the Green Party has a definite impact on Labour, for instance. If Labour don’t have a good environmental policy, they risk losing votes to the Greens.

In the in early 1900s, the suffrage movement abandoned the Liberals (who were taking their time about giving women the vote) and gave their support to the then very small, albeit not single issue Labour Party. The Liberals picked up the pace a bit after that!

We'd be better throwing ourselves behind the SDP if so.

I don't think a women's party would do particularly well. Tories can keep voting Conservative because there is some movement supporting women in the party and no-one gets the Rosie Duffield treatment so unless the women's party other policies fitted with their other world views (free markets, small state, low tax etc) why switch.

Without the support of Conservative women it would be stuffed from the start. UKIP worked because it took votes from old Labour areas as well as from the tory shires. And Labour activists have for too long demonised the Tories - would they bring themselves to work with ex-Conservative activists on this?

Time and money better spent joining the SDP and helping them field candidates and getting an SDP women's movement going.

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