CLT (Critical Legal Thinking) homepage - Forstarter

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The article on the homepage of CLT (a well known blog written by a team of lawyers) is all about Forsater.

Well what do you know. The directly compare gender critical discussion, Forstarter in particular, to Nazism, and blame "the recent rise in hate crimes and violence against transwomen in the UK" (uh evidence please?) on gender critical feminists.

The author completely misrepresents MF's Sex Matters blog as if they haven't actually looked at it. What they say about Sex Matters (that MF thinks transwomen are all perverts etc....) I have looked and can't find that said anywhere at all.

I mean, these are supposedly intelligent people. Thank God MF won when the legal profession is full of people like this.

If you dare .... criticallegalthinking.com/

The author is not an unbiased author.

Given sex matters and MF are not slow in calling out those who misrepresent her case avd the judgement I expect they’ll be all over this

One of them is co author of this
sites.middlebury.edu/soan191/files/2013/08/currahsecuritizinggender.pdf

Where it seems that annoyingly airport scanners accurately detect people’s sex (natch they conflate sex with gender) which may be at odds with what’s in their passport. Apparently “it is authority not truth that makes the law”

In this respect, it is crucial to pursue strategic litigation where harassment/discrimination arise to show discriminatory refusals to respect the rights of trans people under the Equality Act will be actionable.

This is the main bit worth reading.

Sharpe is a known TRA, a law professor at Warwick Uni, formerly Keele and a barrister with Garden Court Chambers, who has worked with groups such as Stonewall.

A mention of Sharpe here, about Allison Bailey, who shared the same chambers:

www.rollonfriday.com/news-content/lesbian-barrister-investigated-setting-lgb-group

From RollonFriday:

Sharpe, who presumably gives Bailey a wide berth at the office, has previously said lesbians should consider why they won't sleep with transwomen who identify as lesbians, and has implied that lesbians who don’t question their attraction to people of the same sex are being unethical. Referring to the ‘cotton ceiling’, a term coined by trans rights activists to describe lesbians' refusal to have sex with people with penises, Sharpe tweeted, "Cotton ceiling. There is nothing wrong with asking people to reflect on preferences where they exclude a whole class of ppl”. Sharpe added, “If X likes white guys, but only white guys, he should not be forced or pressured to have sex with non-white guys, but it might be ethical to reflect on why".

Sharpe on Women's Hour compared feminists to the Bubonic Plague.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3434210-Womens-Hour-features-interviews-with-Professor-Alex-Sharpe-and-Professor-Rosa-Freedman-as-part-of-Sex-Gender-series-Thread-title-edited-at-OPs-request

twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1105455667157090304?s=20

Oh I should have guessed the author was a transwoman lesbian with a penis.

It's just so ridiculous that the thing is read by about 14k people. Most will just read it and tune off thinking "oh dear those terrible trans hating t*rfs at it again are they" they won't bother actually researching the facts.

I hope Sex matters do pick up on it and can do something.

“If X likes white guys, but only white guys, he should not be forced or pressured to have sex with non-white guys, but it might be ethical to reflect on why".

It never ceases to intrigue me. It's perfectly OK to draw parallels between racism and transphobia when it's useful to do so, but always wrong to look for similarities between gender based and race based transition. Why is this?

Oh dear.

'''literally seeking to erase or eliminate trans people''.

Reads like a sulking Twitter teen.

While the complainant’s ‘gender critical’ beliefs may not be on a par with those of the Nazis, they help to foster a political culture in which trans people are dehumanised and in which trans rights are threatened.

Erm, the only dehumanisation and threats I'm seeing are aimed at women.

Every organisation tripping over themselves trying to be the most degrading for them SW points. ''Menstruators,'' ''vagina havers'', ''autistics with a cervix'', ''black birthing bodies''.

Then there's ''kill/punch a terf'', women needing security at Uni and their homes, effigies of women being hung, and no authority has stepped in and condemned it.

In recent years, the UK has witnessed a significant rise in hate motivated crimes against trans people.

How can we take that seriously when 'hate motivated crimes' include a gay man saying a straight woman isn't a gay man, someone putting a sticker up with the dictionary definition of the word woman, or a bookshop stocking Harry Potter books?

Tell you what the UK has seen a significant rise in, mate. Misogyny. Vile woman haters, including politicians, doctors and lawyers, have found a neat little way to harass, threaten and dehumanise women and get away with it.

In this respect, it is crucial to pursue strategic litigation where harassment/discrimination arise to show discriminatory refusals to respect the rights of trans people under the Equality Act will be actionable.

Aye, same applies to women now, who have been discriminated against and relentlessly hounded for believing in reality.

Gosh, people are really salty they can't run crying to a woman's employer anymore when she does a ''wrongspeak'', aren't they?

Tough, Maya's judgement has levelled the playing field. She's amazing for pursuing this 😊

While the complainant’s ‘gender critical’ beliefs may not be on a par with those of the Nazis

I bet it stung Sharpe to have to write that statement.

“If X likes white guys, but only white guys, he should not be forced or pressured to have sex with non-white guys, but it might be ethical to reflect on why"

It's also very telling that they always use race and not the actual comparator which would be gay men being forced or pressured to have sex with women.

It is, isn't it.

And also that they didn't use "if x only likes black guys, he should reflect on why he doesn't like white guys"

@Ereshkigalangcleg

While the complainant’s ‘gender critical’ beliefs may not be on a par with those of the Nazis

I bet it stung Sharpe to have to write that statement.

The use of that phrase is a strong hint as to the authors of a thread that I included in the CGDev not appealing MF's judgment by Justice Choudhury thread. Some comparison, more or less the same wording.

PPs have gone for archaeological digs on the threads that came to mind for me.

The cognitive biases always have and, sadly probably will continue to be non-scaleable for some people who are so invested in this that they could not accept any modification to their stance, no matter how legal nor rational.