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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Teenage girls who questioned how many genders there are get labelled‘ prejudiced’, ‘ignorant’ and ‘cowardice bullies’ and get re-educated

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Hazycoffeek · 24/06/2021 21:57

www.educatingmatters.co.uk/blog/category/lgbtq/

This blog posted today is from a corporate training provider for parents.

The author is obviously trying to support her child but when the child’s friends said that there are only 2 genders, the mother got the school to get them educated. And then this woman decides to write a blog shaming them even more.

Look at the language - ‘how dare they spread hate and ignorance’, ‘cowardice bullies’, ‘these children lacked education’ etc etc. There is mention of the girls using hate speak but funnily enough, no details provided on the words used. Far simpler to just tell girls not to have their own beliefs and thoughts I guess. So these teenage girls are taught a lesson in wrongthink.

Email to complain is here

www.educatingmatters.co.uk/contact/

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namechangedontfireme · 24/06/2021 22:37

It must be so tough to be a teenage girl these days. Surely for them, more than any of us, womanhood is being reduced to pretty, pink, fashion thing.

They’re sexualised and exploited by all of society - at the sharp end of social media and porn culture - and then told a boy who puts on a dress is just the same as them.

MichelleScarn · 24/06/2021 22:41

That blog is terrifying.
'Believe and say what we tell you to or the consequences will be swift and severe
Education has never seemed such a scary word. It makes me think of that scene in A Clockwork Orange where the eye is forced open and the 're-education' happens.

Hestyo · 24/06/2021 22:44

That reads like satire. 'proud mama' 🤮

FemaleAndLearning · 24/06/2021 22:53

Wow that is just awful. You can read about the proud mama bear here. Does anyone know how involved this organusatii
us in schools?
httpss://www.educatingmatters.co.uk/about-us/

Teenage girls who questioned how many genders there are get labelled‘ prejudiced’, ‘ignorant’ and ‘cowardice bullies’ and get re-educated
InspiralCoalescenceRingdown · 25/06/2021 00:04

I read that, but I'm completely none the wiser to what happened. Did the author's daughter have a conversation with some kids who said that there are only two sexes? Was she the target of homophobic bullying? Who knows.

Slinging the word queer about freely sounds homophobic to me, though.

stumbledin · 25/06/2021 00:36

They are inviting people to comment on the thread.

The whole language is American and from the bit at the end it looks like this is someone promoting herself as an educator.

Either way it makes the organisation look daft to have given this women blog space, given the recent court cases about individuals right to believe what they want. Added to which would want to know what school would agree to a "re-education programme" which is actually based on a falsehood.

On one level is so absurd I just want to laugh, but if as the writer suggest children were "re-educated" this is really serious.

donquixotedelamancha · 25/06/2021 06:52

That blog reads like a parody. Who the fuck read that and decided to publish it?

Whatwouldscullydo · 25/06/2021 07:05

These parents need to have a word with their kids about what phobias etc actually are.

A difference of opinion doesn't count. Someone Not believing in God doesn't do the Christian children any harm. Perhaps of people just got in with their lives instead of creating problems where there aren't any everyone would be better off.

Queen is just another term where straight people try and make themselves sound more interesting. I'd be more concerned about a child trying to appropriate the difficulties others befire them had as opposed to kids who believe in biology.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 25/06/2021 07:52

I don’t even know how many genders there are (I do know how may sexes though).

Gender feels like in the 80s when people would play with clothes and makeup to project ‘a look’ (Sloane ranger one day, new romantic the next, explorer, Rara girl, rapper a la Salt n Pepper...) every day a new ‘persona’ often based on what was on top of the pops that week.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 25/06/2021 07:57

the consequences will be swift and severe

And this person is allowed into schools? Terrifying.

Childrenofthestones · 25/06/2021 08:04

Weve been here before with the hard left, it'll be off to the Gulag before we know it.

MoreAloneTime · 25/06/2021 08:12

If that girl is real she's going to have a rough time in adulthood. Unless of course mama bear helicopters and bulldozes everything in her way.

Justme56 · 25/06/2021 10:24

I read this blog this morning and whilst I understand that the author was concerned about her daughter I find her language and her own lack of tolerance of others beliefs disturbing.

Obviously the author and her daughter recognise Queer theory which supports the notion that there are many genders, for example a leather gender and a rubber gender. However, as stated, this is a theory - a set of ideas which can be questioned, accepted or rejected. An alternative theory, and one held by many, is that there are only two genders, man and woman. Once again this can be questioned, accepted or rejected. Neither is right nor wrong.

So if I refer back to the blog, “in school this week, my daughter was confronted by ignorant teenagers who are were trying to convince her there were 2 genders. As is usual when it comes to cowardly bullies they came in a group of 3”. This then continues with her "sweet proud daughter" trying to use this as an opportunity for "education". Whilst I understand mama is going to support her daughter it is quite obvious from her own language that she has an aggressive intolerance of others beliefs.

It is apparent that the situation got out of hand and I definitely do not condone "hate speech" and understand mama’s frustration with this. However, her constant reference to "re-educating" and "self-education" of the teenagers ignorant beliefs once again reinforces her prejudice to others who do not share her own beliefs. I ask, if this blog had been about a belief in God would you have accepted it on the basis that those who don’t believe are "ignorant" and in need of "re-educating"?

Education is important to help us understand and formulate our own beliefs about all sorts of things including gender. However, to do this effectively we need to look at a range of ideas and theories. In this way we can form our own opinions and respect those whose beliefs may differ from our own. With this in mind, maybe mama should follow her own advice and do some serious "self education" herself.

ArabellaScott · 25/06/2021 11:14

Odd organisation, can't quite work it out.

The author of the blog is American, but also one of the staff of the organisation. www.educatingmatters.co.uk/about-us/

It's highly problematic to suggest that it's 'hate' to talk about two genders.

Firstly, is she talking about gender or sex? All very unclear, with vague accusations of hatred but not a clear explanation of what happened.

Secondly, how is a teenager of 14 au fait with 'queer' ideology? Seems unusual.

A useful clip on queer theory:

SirVixofVixHall · 25/06/2021 12:02

@namechangedontfireme

It must be so tough to be a teenage girl these days. Surely for them, more than any of us, womanhood is being reduced to pretty, pink, fashion thing.

They’re sexualised and exploited by all of society - at the sharp end of social media and porn culture - and then told a boy who puts on a dress is just the same as them.

I have two teenage daughters, and this is why I fight this ideology .
RedDeerRunning · 25/06/2021 12:37

I'm presuming the girls simply correctly identified the sex of this crazy woman's 'daughter' and for exerting their boundaries, are being severely punished. That's what I read behind the lines anyway.

TheWatersofMarch · 25/06/2021 13:09

Such a sinister Orwellian use of the term 'educate'.

stumbledin · 25/06/2021 15:53

By chance i came across this one where a group advising on independent schools is actually giving the wrong advice about the EA.

Basically saying a trans girl 14 (not actually medically transitioned) should be welcomed into an all girls school. We not coment about the right of the existing parents and girls who have specifically chosed an all girls school.

ie-today.co.uk/features/supporting-transgender-pupils-in-independent-schools/

There is a real problem that all these self appointed experts are further perpetuating misinterpretations of the law.

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