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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why doesn't the Labour Party care about women.en?

34 replies

Eveniamcautious · 18/06/2021 23:54

I made a mistake the first time I tried to post this, and used an offensive term, so im asking again, without that term. Apologies for that.

Why doesn't the Labour Party support women? The pro-women reports i see in the media come from sources like GB News, the Mail and even the Spectator. The left-wing media seems to be largely silent and almost anti-feminist.

Labour oversaw that atrocity that was the Managed Zone in Leeds, a Labour Councillor called a woman a terf with no repercussions, Labour just don't seem bothered that women are being thrown under the bus, and I genuinely don't understand why.

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PicsInRed · 19/06/2021 09:51

@NiceGerbil

No one should make the mistake of thinking that the right care about women or girls in general.

I mean that's silly.

Perhaps not, but the centre right aren't presently actively trying to fuck us over. That's the difference for me, as the centre left ARE.
YellowFish12 · 19/06/2021 09:56

Yup I feel that no political party actually supports women and women’s right.

However it feels like the left has entered a dangerous mew phase of actively trying to dismantle women’s rights and actively and aggressively go after and attack and silence women and especially women of a different racial heritage or sexual orientation.

And I’m scared.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 19/06/2021 10:15

Because they’re still listening to 20 something momentum activists who were not even born at the time telling them the trans issue is just like section 28 under the thatcher government

talkingdeadscot · 19/06/2021 10:41

@NiceGerbil

Someone said the thing about labour currently is that they seem to despise large groups of their traditional supporters.

Women
Jewish people
More?

The actual working class?
Olderbadger1 · 19/06/2021 10:41

@YellowFish12

Yup I feel that no political party actually supports women and women’s right.

However it feels like the left has entered a dangerous mew phase of actively trying to dismantle women’s rights and actively and aggressively go after and attack and silence women and especially women of a different racial heritage or sexual orientation.

And I’m scared.

Nail on head Yellow.

Welsh Government have just committed to self-ID - led by our newly-named 'Social Justice Minister' (used to be our Women & Equalities Minister but women are soooo yesterday's news obvs). Labour are actively anti-women and totally unconcerned about the impact of their Stonewall-dictated policies on other groups.

I'm scared too.

Helmetbymidnight · 19/06/2021 10:45

Because they’re still listening to 20 something momentum activists who were not even born at the time telling them the trans issue is just like section 28 under the thatcher government

Yeah, I was just about to say this - have been on twitter a lot recently - and the Labour party is full of he/hims activists from 16-30 who have no doubts in their heads that they are the good guys, and happily call dissenters: racists, bigots or 'get out the party' etc.

(I also know many fantastic Labour women pushing back but...)

These men (many with autism, from their profiles) seem furious and don't seem able to listen to anyone outside their bubble - that is, will block at questions they don't like. They are completely under the spell of gender ideology - and the idea that women have sex-based rights does not compute.

highame · 19/06/2021 10:48

One of the things I've noticed is that the Tories are fleet of foot and can change focus pretty damned quickly. Tony Blair was the only one I noticed who thought women had importance but he didn't do enough. David Cameron was very keen on making himself a friend of MN too and there are plenty who recognise the importance of MN (yes I'm singling it out) as one of the biggest women's groups with such a cross section that it is massively important. The Tories know where to look and they do loads more focus groups etc than Labour, in fact their 'find out' machine is very well oiled.

Labour just can't resist talking to itself and I don't know if it can break that mould. Losing a deposit in the latest by-election was catastrophic (even if it was also bad for the Tories) and they have so much to do to gain strength. If they're not careful, they could end up with a Scotland crisis on their hands. Maybe then they'll think we're important.

This goes all the way back to the family wage - the man should earn enough to keep his family and the woman should stay home and only do paid work for pocket money

Jux · 19/06/2021 11:59

Highame

This goes all the way back to the family wage - the man should earn enough to keep his family and the woman should stay home and only do paid work for pocket money

Exactly what I was thinking. The basic assumptions about how society works have not been updated. They know consciously, but it's not worked it's way through to emotional unconsciousness. I've not used the right terms there but I don't know what they are!

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 19/06/2021 12:02

Some clever powerful people manipulating less clever people to pursue the age old agenda of controlling women and moving toward a world where people can’t procreate any more through neoeugenics.

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