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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gender identity's around the world

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beblind · 18/06/2021 09:41

Have just seen this posted on fb-a list of all the gender identity's around the world - muxes, Hijra, brotherboys/sister girls, two spirit etc

It has no baring on enshrining in law the legal fiction of changing sex and I just want to bash my head against so thing solid repeatedly until this all goes away

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beblind · 18/06/2021 09:43

"This" being the legalities, and encroachment on single sex spaces/women's rights.
People doing their own thing is dandy by me x

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NecessaryScene · 18/06/2021 09:43

Lots of cultures in history and around the world had different race identities - various castes, slaves etc.

I don't think that's an argument for imitating that here and now.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 18/06/2021 09:51

There was some discussion at a recent WHRC webinar about the misunderstanding of gender identity in different cultures/countries.

Yeye Luisah Teish, author, storyteller, activist & elder in the Ifa/Orisha tradition of the African diaspora, USA

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OnWednesdaysWeWearMink · 18/06/2021 09:55

I think cherry picking traditions from other cultures to support our current trends/ fashionable ideologies is the new orientalism.

It’s insulting to other cultures that get taken out of context and used to score points.

InvisibleDragon · 18/06/2021 10:08

Recognising that gender non-conforming people exist across many cultures and that some people have a deeply held sense of gender identity is not the same as saying that self-identified trans women should be treated as indistinguishable from biological women in all regards.

Similarly, recognising that sometimes biological sex should take precedence over gender identity is not the same as denying that trans people exist or denying trans people's right to exist. These are fallacies.

NecessaryScene · 18/06/2021 10:19

Recognising that gender non-conforming people exist across many cultures

Where we have records of that, from history, it's often an indication that they were very non-gender-critical societies. They had dedicated boxes to put gender-non-conforming individuals in. To segregate them.

Non-gender-conforming (including homosexual) individuals were not "proper men" or "proper women", and had to enter one of these other roles. Being declared one of these other genders was NOT generally voluntary.

THIS IS NOT GOOD.

And even if you claim now that being "non-binary" is voluntary, a kind of peer pressure builds up, as you're seeing. Women feeling like they have to act a certain way to be a woman, and if they don't they feel they'll be hassled less if they call themselves "non-binary". Peer pressure pushes them into the box.

This is a path back to those compelled boxes.

We are gender critical because we were in a good place, and we're sliding back to a much worse one. The one those societies had. And we did - but we progressed.

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