Debunking trans teen suicide stats

[33feethighandrising]

I've just got off the phone with DS's school, who are telling me that one of the reasons they have Allsorts in school, doing assemblies and one-to-ones with the children is that they have trans kids in the school and that if they don't support them they're at risk of suicide.

I asked her where she'd got that information from and she said it was a widely known fact.

Obviously, we all want to support troubled kids and there are many ways to support kids that aren't Allsorts, but just on the suicide stats, can anyone help me with this point?

I know I've read some thorough debunking of the suicide stats but I can't remember where now.

I'm thankful they're not telling the DC this at least (because of suicidal contagion) but it's informing their decision to work with Allsorts.

sites.manchester.ac.uk/ncish/reports/suicide-by-children-and-young-people/

This is the National Confidential Inquiry into Suicide which includes a brief section on LGBT children and young people. I understand the current ongoing audit is more specifically asking questions about whether someone was trans rather than LGBT and there is a link to the full report which is worth reading.
The report is a sad read I'm afraid, all families with lost young people.

Gender dysphoria is not a mental health condition in itself

Child suicides are thankfully rare in UK.

@GiantKitten

Gender dysphoria is not a mental health condition in itself

What is it, then? Do they say?

The very sad cases of child suicide/deaths that I can remember in the news are often said to be caused by bullying (the usual shitty type) or teens acting out dangerous sex games (where are they seeing this) or taking recreational drugs.

Why aren’t schools really focussing on all this? Why is so much time and money being spent purely on one part of the LGB+ community. Small but influential. So many kids/young adults would self describe themselves as under the umbrella these days because - well that’s what they do, even if they don’t actually understand it.

@ShagMeRiggins

It was always considered a mental health condition until the WHO changed their categorisation in 2019. They decided they should remove the ‘mental health’ stigma.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-48448804

Anorexia, otoh, is still considered a mental health condition (by the NHS anyway, can’t find WHO)

www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/anorexia/overview/

As both are a disconnect between mind and body, how does that work?

@NiceGerbil

Child suicides are thankfully rare in UK.

And, for those tragedies that do occur, it's an appalling litany of multiple failures in service provision.

Prof. Appleby and the Manchester report are excellent.

My objections are with reports based on survey data for which the raw data and methodology are withheld.

And, for those tragedies that do occur, it's an appalling litany of multiple failures in service provision.

Correction to that, I omitted "all too often an appalling…"