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NHS badges

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boydy99 · 13/06/2021 06:59

I dont know if anyone else has seen this yet. My organisation is also public sector and pro Stonewall so wondering how long it is until we have a similar policy.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/aec64082-cbb4-11eb-b575-81b2a16c3be4?shareToken=203864c87d5e4519397c8dea43d8a407

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FannyCann · 20/07/2021 14:13

Just resurrecting this thread to link a couple of FOIs I have noticed regarding the expense of the NHS Rainbow badge scheme.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/costoffthenhssrainbowbadgee_pr?nocache=incoming-1836215#incoming-1836215

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FannyCann · 20/07/2021 14:16

So that's £70,000 that NHS England put up for the project, and individual trust spending several thousand a year on related items.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/costoffnhsrainbowwbadgescheme#describeestateformm1

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RedDogsBeg · 20/07/2021 21:29

Amazing how the cash strapped, never enough money, staff worked to distraction, not enough staff NHS can easily find money, staff and time for the demands of Stonewall membership and Rainbow Schemes. I bet patients are absolutely thrilled to know how the money, time or staff that could improve their care is being diverted.

KittenKong · 21/07/2021 08:49

£70k? Aye and the rest... how many ‘schemes’ have they paid to join, how much training (and staff hours used doing this), what has been missed out due to the ££ and hours used up with this?

KittenKong · 21/07/2021 08:49

How much for the Scottish ‘pronouns’ one (which was pretty sinister to be honest).

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/07/2021 08:57

There is an article in the Scotland section of the Times today about the minutes of the NHS Scotland rainbow badge steering committee, in which people said the NHS had "appropriated" the rainbow.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a78f0102-e9a3-11eb-baaa-861dba20d87a?shareToken=160fced1a24aa4d409e6e3c54664e063

highame · 21/07/2021 08:59

Any updates on this?

Time we took back the NHS brick by brick

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/07/2021 09:02

The steering group said the new badges should not be distributed for “purely aesthetic purposes” and it was agreed that staff would have to make a pledge before they got one. They would have to agree to “use inclusive language and respect identity”, “be a friendly, listening ally who staff and service users can safely approach”, and “be aware of, and responsive to, issues faced by LGBTQ+ people accessing care”.

As commenters below the article pointed out, that could lead to a sinister division as people without a badge would have either failed the test to get a badge or not bothered or refused to take it, and labelled not LGBT friendly.

Peter Tatchellll_, the gay rights campaigner, said that the LGBT community had been “robbed” and called on the health service to create its own symbol. “To adopt the same six-colour LGBTQ rainbow flag for the NHS looks like blatant cultural appropriation,” he said.^

NHS Scotland pride badges, which started being issued last month, feature black, brown, pink, light blue and white stripes to represent trans people and people of colour.

StandUpStraight · 21/07/2021 09:12

From the response to the FOI request in the link: “ It is important to note that the NHS continues to face unprecedented challenges associated with the coronavirus pandemic. While we will make every effort to respond to your request within 20 working days, our staff remain focused on supporting patient care and restoring vital healthcare services. Staff availability for information rights work will remain limited for some time. It will not be possible for us to process large requests for information that require an unreasonable level of staff resources to complete. If you would like to revise your request please let us know by emailing us.”

We might not respond to your FOI request if it takes too many resources, but we have infinite amounts of time and money to spend on rainbow re-education for our staff.

RedDogsBeg · 21/07/2021 13:35

@StandUpStraight

From the response to the FOI request in the link: “ It is important to note that the NHS continues to face unprecedented challenges associated with the coronavirus pandemic. While we will make every effort to respond to your request within 20 working days, our staff remain focused on supporting patient care and restoring vital healthcare services. Staff availability for information rights work will remain limited for some time. It will not be possible for us to process large requests for information that require an unreasonable level of staff resources to complete. If you would like to revise your request please let us know by emailing us.”

We might not respond to your FOI request if it takes too many resources, but we have infinite amounts of time and money to spend on rainbow re-education for our staff.

You hit the nail squarely on the head there StandUpStraight, that needs repeating to them every single time they whinge about lack of staff, resources, time and all the challenges they face.
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