Detrans reddit - cry for help.

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This is so sad. This is why we have to keep fighting - so many more of these young people are likely to feel this way if the trend continues the way it has been :(

This is why we've fought so hard and many have suffered for refusing to give up and to capitulate to this insidious ideology.

After more than 4 years putting up with the constant onslaught of threats and intimidation and being told I'm in the wrong and that I'm a bigot for saying no to men colonising womanhood and insisting that no-one's born in the wrong body, I like many others am knackered and at times want to step away from the whole damned thing, but I also know that I can't do that.

If I don't do it then who? If women don't defend each other and the children being poisoned by a toxic and regressive ideology, then who else will?

This is why we fight and will continue to do so, until the bitter end.

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This is why we've fought so hard and many have suffered for refusing to give up and to capitulate to this insidious ideology.

After more than 4 years putting up with the constant onslaught of threats and intimidation and being told I'm in the wrong and that I'm a bigot for saying no to men colonising womanhood and insisting that no-one's born in the wrong body, I like many others am knackered and at times want to step away from the whole damned thing, but I also know that I can't do that.

If I don't do it then who? If women don't defend each other and the children being poisoned by a toxic and regressive ideology, then who else will?

This is why we fight and will continue to do so, until the bitter end.

Thank you.

Absolutely. I feel the tide is starting to change...

This is why we fight and will continue to do so, until the bitter end

Until the very bitter end indeed.

Always.

That poor child. There are a lot of adults out there with a lot to answer for.

Yes I hope that poor person gets whatever help it is they now need. I hope the relevant bodies are forced to give them the help they now need.

This is why we fight and will continue to do so, until the bitter end.

Thank you Pandora. That's how I feel too.

Pandora I agree with every word of your post. This is why I'm here. This poor young woman. I hope she is able to tell her dad. She doesn't realise how young she still is (I speak from bitter experience of thinking it was 'too late' to change my mind (on a totally different issue) in my twenties).

That is heartbreaking.

It's happening to boys too - I watched this gutting video of young man, who'd come from a religious background, traumas from being an effeminate boy in an unaccepting society, encouraged to transition,
How at 19 realising the effects that medicalisation has had - including taking away his sexual function and fertility. He talks about the difficulty finding partners (and peers) And as he says "because my puberty was stunted, the people who do want to be with me aren't the most savoury of people".

I remember when /detrans was banned, (thankfully reinstated) and thinking how unjust it was to ban a support forum for young people so desperately harmed by gender ideology simply because the discussion was more nuanced than "TWAW no debate".

If you look at the posts, all are heartbreaking. These people's real distress and lived experiences are ignored, shouted down and cancelled by TRA.

So much pain and heartbreak's left in the wake of this insidious ideology. Sometimes it's almost too much to bear.

My heart goes out to that poor girl, I just want to give her a hug. I really hope she gets the support she needs.

Surely this is why we don't allow 12/13/14 year olds to make life changing decisions...how can they possibly calculate the long term consequences of those choices.

Because of people like you who refuse to stay silent, people like me are becoming aware of these issues.
I am late to all this, and amazing women and girls who are standing up for women’s rights have given me the awareness, strength and inspiration to do the same and join this difficult fight. So thank you to you and all the other wonderful women on here who have been an inspiration to me and are doing so much for the rights of women and girls.

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Oh that poor child :(

This is why I really not kind to go along with or to make a huge deal out of it with face book announcements amd name changes etc

Always leave a way back.

One thing I have always valued from my friends is honesty. If I smell or look shit I wanna hear it from someone I know who loves me amd cares about me. Not find out the hard way that everyone around me who was meant to protect me all contributed to hurting me.

It's not kind. It's not even about the person it's abiut everyone's ability to claim.allyship and suddenly become more special.

Truth can hurt but it's always kindest long term

This is why I really not kind to go along with or to make a huge deal out of it with face book announcements amd name changes etc

Always leave a way back.

I agree with you, but these are teenagers, many of whom are hellbent on 'proving' that they are doing the right thing. And when they name change, announce things online - they get positive feedback and attention which probably feels good at the time.

I find it so telling that the girl in the OP says she informed her father during an argument as a 13 year old. I do think for some of these teenagers, there's an element of stubbornness and not wanting to lose face which makes them reluctant the admit that it has gone too far, or that transition hasn't worked for them.

It doesn't help that the trans 'community' is so unsupportive of detransitioners.

I have no problem with an adult making this choice, but with a child there should always be a wait and see approach.

"I find it so telling that the girl in the OP says she informed her father during an argument as a 13 year old. I do think for some of these teenagers, there's an element of stubbornness and not wanting to lose face which makes them reluctant the admit that it has gone too far, or that transition hasn't worked for them."

This is so true.
Different scenario but the stubborn rebellion thing is the same - a friend of mine was determined to become engaged at 16 to her boyfriend of 5 weeks (!). Her parents refused to countenance it, but she fought and fought to have them accept it. They said they would at 6m - and by about 8m in, friend was seriously regretting her adamant statement that she was right, and this was The One for her. But she couldn't back down and admit her parents were right - it was too hard. She would have married the dickhead just to "save face" - except luckily for her he cheated and she was able to break the engagement for that reason.
IF she had gone ahead, though, at least she could have divorced easily enough - these kids, if they forge ahead with their insistence on being trans, they'll end up with life-changing situations re. surgery, hormones, body adaptations etc. Just so wrong!

THIS is why we have to force the governments to sit up and take notice that these kids are NOT able to take these massive steps in full knowledge of what it means to them.

[quote StellaAndCrow]It's happening to boys too - I watched this gutting video of young man, who'd come from a religious background, traumas from being an effeminate boy in an unaccepting society, encouraged to transition,
How at 19 realising the effects that medicalisation has had - including taking away his sexual function and fertility. He talks about the difficulty finding partners (and peers) And as he says "because my puberty was stunted, the people who do want to be with me aren't the most savoury of people".

[/quote] Thanks for this link.