Invitation to join W.I. If you “live like a woman”.

[Patup5]

I kid you not. This was on a local Facebook group.

What does “living like a woman” involve? Have I been doing it wrong all these years?

R.I.P. the Women’s Institute.

July's issue of the WI magazine has a huge article on Petra, a trans WI member - www.facebook.com/thewi/photos/a.185789386138/10158322202281139/

The article says that the WI 'brought in' Gendered Intelligence to help draft their Equality, Diversity and Inclusion policy.

The article seems to promote Self ID

The WI decided on this policy quite some time ago (thread archaeology):

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3353260-Kathleen-Stock-womens-organisations-have-decentred-biological-females

I very much forward to the brave trans women living like a woman by taking over some of the 60% more unpaid domestic labour done by women vs men.

@EmbarrassingAdmissions

The WI in the article stated they have updated their Equality, Diversity and Inclusion policy this year, with the help of Gendered Intelligence.

Just reading their NFWI's FAQ's, they write:

"Under UK law, charitable organisations whose constitution stipulates single-sex membership are entitled to restrict access to the opposite sex"

Does that mean they're not able to restrict access as they are not single-sex membership?

Does that mean they're not able to restrict access as they are not single-sex membership?

I was referring to a policy that decentres women as the heart of the WI and its campaigns.

I would think comments from discrimination lawyers would be needed to answer your specific question.

Nice they welcomed Petra, shame I didn't get the same welcome, very cliquey, I left after three meetings. I was very disappointed.

Sorry Embarrassing, I meant I looked through their own FAQs and posted that as a general question to the thread in response to the WI's own statement, not to you specifically.

@terfnserf such a shame you were left feeling like that.

What a shame, my mum was a member of this and the Townswomens guild. She's be turning in her grave.
I've nothing against people being who they want to be, but inclusion in women's groups isn't on.
There should be particular groups for trans, where they can discuss issues, and form friendships.

@LadyOfTheFlowers

Nothing is sacred.

As women are not even allowed to refer themselves as women as it may offend those that aren't women (wt actual f?) or use a public toilet safe in the knowledge there will only be other women around there's no way we will be allowed to simply go to meetings that epitomise womanhood without that being infiltrated too.

None of this will stop until every single simple thing women have as our own is stripped from us.

Quite right.

As in 'Our Lady of the Flowers?

Not the best of wording. We say anyone who identifies as a woman can join us. If this isn't the best phrase to use, I would welcome an alternative.

The WI certainly isn't dying.

@RuthW

Not the best of wording. We say anyone who identifies as a woman can join us. If this isn't the best phrase to use, I would welcome an alternative.

The WI certainly isn't dying.

You know it would be much more powerful, open and inclusive to say you are opening up areas of interest and activities traditionally assumed to be Women’s to people of any sex, rather than reducing the definition of Woman to only the characteristics of female people that can also be found in male?

[quote GloGirl]@EmbarrassingAdmissions

The WI in the article stated they have updated their Equality, Diversity and Inclusion policy this year, with the help of Gendered Intelligence.

Just reading their NFWI's FAQ's, they write:

"Under UK law, charitable organisations whose constitution stipulates single-sex membership are entitled to restrict access to the opposite sex"

Does that mean they're not able to restrict access as they are not single-sex membership?[/quote]
In their National FAQs it states The Women's Institute is based on the idea of establishing a strong female community, providing women with educational opportunities and the chance to make a difference in their communities. Therefore, the WI is set up as an educational charity with a constitution which states that membership is only open to women. Under UK law, charitable organisations whose constitution stipulates single-sex membership are entitled to restrict access to the opposite sex.
I'm sure I've read elsewhere something about not being able to change things willy-nilly when you are a charity

Focus on your charity’s purposes
You must deliver only your charity’s purposes. Your charity’s funds can only be spent on supporting the delivery of these purposes.

Read the governing document. Make sure you understand:

what your charity is set up to achieve (its purposes)
who your charity is there to benefit (its beneficiaries)
what your charity can or cannot do to carry out its purposes (its powers)

Drifting into activities that your charity is not set up to do
This can happen if you do not focus on your charity’s purposes. For example, where the charity:

wants to deliver a new service, but trustees have not checked that this new work fits the charity’s purposes
has applied for a grant, which must be spent on activities that do not match the charity’s purposes
Using charity funds or resources on other purposes is very serious. Trustees may have to repay the charity from their own money.

Keep your charity’s purposes under review to ensure that they properly reflect what the charity does.
www.gov.uk/guidance/charity-purposes-and-rules

It sounds as though, if they've stated it's for women and single-sex, they have to keep to that but I'm not sure.
I couldn't find the governing document for the branch upthread (they seem to have individual ones), so I'll pick another and see what I can find

The Freemasons accept transwomen because of primogeniture. The upper classes are very protective of the right of the first born son and a transwoman could be the first born son and would not be disinherited. A transman by contrast would not be allowed to inherit because the transman is biologically a woman. The patriarchy is alive and well

It wouldn't be inclusive to me as I don't identify as a woman. I bet the majority of their members don't identify as a woman either

I identify as a standard-issue genderless brain in a female body. Which club is best for me?

Shehasadiamondinthesky

"Because men aren't expected to share their spaces like we are. I would be interested to know if the female masons accept trans women, I have a friend in one of the female groups so I'll ask her."

Don't the male Masons admit trans women, but not trans men?

Yes twisted, I've answered that, 3rd post above you. Unless it's not very clear

@FlibbertyGiblets

chosen at random, a local WI faq, scroll to 5

Paragraphs 4 and 5 in that FAQ completely contradict each other.

FAQ 5 is a bit snide & uncaring, isn't it?

Wasn't there a lesbian who wrote on a different thread, that she & her wife moved to a different area & tried to join the local WI but only one of them was allowed to join at a time? I really don't understand that rule.