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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another woman investigated by police?

20 replies

crumpet · 07/06/2021 11:33

I’ve seen mention of a woman called in my Avon and Somerset police for questioning, but can’t see any details yet, other than it seems that a Labour Party member has been offended by misgendering

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ArabellaScott · 07/06/2021 11:54

Yep, waiting to hear more from the Labour Women's Declration on Twitter.

Very worrying.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 07/06/2021 11:56

Do we need to start doing a roll call of feminists in the mornings? See how many of us are left?

Thelnebriati · 07/06/2021 13:41

But the HOL said this would never happen!

purpleboy · 07/06/2021 13:45

Bloody hell, WTF is going on?

nauticant · 07/06/2021 13:47

This goes some way to explain it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog

PearPickingPorky · 07/06/2021 14:09

The extremists never learn, do they.

jellybeansforbreakfast · 07/06/2021 14:31

www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/transphobic-comments-made-woman-hate-5479879

I read this last week and was perplexed by the inherent linguistic gymnastics. I am waiting to see more information before thinking more on it.

FOJN · 07/06/2021 16:05

jellybeansforbreakfast

That page is interesting. There was a headline with a photo underneath which had the caption "woman severely injured" followed by the story about the transphobic comments. It's almost as if they are trying to give the impression a transwoman was physically attacked by another woman.

jellybeansforbreakfast · 07/06/2021 16:32

I know! Having read it a few times I am no nearer knowing who was unpleasant to whom.

And IPSO thinks that's OK!

NiceGerbil · 07/06/2021 16:59

Of course all of the comments and abuse women and girls get on the street are just normal and nothing to worry about...

TheWeeDonkey · 07/06/2021 18:36

Well that news article was clear as mud.

allmywhat · 07/06/2021 19:14

I’m so confused. Why does that photo caption say that “a woman is severely injured” when the text is talking about nothing more than transphobic comments? Were someone’s feelings severely injured?

I’m glad to learn though that the police in Bristol will do a public appeal for information to search for people who say unpleasant things to women in the street. What a safe and positive place for women it must be! Or do only some women get that treatment? Hmm

IntoAir · 07/06/2021 20:10

I’m glad to learn though that the police in Bristol will do a public appeal for information to search for people who say unpleasant things to women in the street.

Yes, it makes me wish I lived in Bristol, where the police would have spent a day and a press release trying to find the person who yelled "Stuck up cunt, gissa smile" at me the other day.

Oh, wait ...

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 08/06/2021 12:03

Anyone heard anything more about this woman?

Is she still being questioned?

FannyCann · 08/06/2021 13:32

There was a thread about this on Twitter last week.

I'm in two minds about posting due to it having identifying information but the police released this and I'm shocked that they would do so.

twitter.com/wearefaircop/status/1399756274837954563?s=21

FannyCann · 08/06/2021 13:33

I assume it's the same case that the police are dealing with.

jellybeansforbreakfast · 08/06/2021 13:54

And no weaseling around with 'alleged' cos a hate crime is anything the person reporting it says it is!

Assuming you are living 'ahead of the law' obviously!

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 08/06/2021 14:23

[quote FannyCann]There was a thread about this on Twitter last week.

I'm in two minds about posting due to it having identifying information but the police released this and I'm shocked that they would do so.

twitter.com/wearefaircop/status/1399756274837954563?s=21[/quote]
I followed the Daily Mail link from that thread. I've every sympathy for the couple at the heart of it who were being abused about their child.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9629921/Couple-software-firm-boss-said-transgender-son-evil-awarded-damages.html

Ms Forman's engineer husband Stuart Forman, 60, who was also company director of the firm, also harassed the couple by not intervening when the comments were made in October 2018.

Employment Judge Michael Ord said in the panel's judgement published today: 'Both claimants [Vicky and Keith Brett] were the victims of direct discrimination on the protected characteristic of gender reassignment when they were told by Kate Forman that their transgender son was evil and going to hell that they were going to hell for supporting him.

'At the same time, they were harassed by Mr Forman through his conduct when he was silent and did not seek to intervene when Mrs Forman - an employee of the respondent [Khi-Ro] - was abusing the first and second claimants in that way.'

Nonetheless, I was taken aback to discover that not intervening is also an indication of harassment. I can think of a number of couples who know what might ratchet up their partner's behaviour and wouldn't intervene - I don't know the people involved but I'm particularly thinking of people whose partners have intermittent explosive disorder and are cowed into silence when this happens.

It would be interesting to know if there's a general public duty to intervene when abuse is in progress or if this is specifically limited to settings like this within a company. And, to be clear, partner or not, I'd expect the silent partner to apologise after the incident was over if they'd chosen a non-escalation strategy.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 08/06/2021 16:48

this is all going to get very messy indeed.

I hope she is ok. Marion Millar has an army of women around her, I hope that woman has plenty of support too.

jellybeansforbreakfast · 08/06/2021 16:50

Yes, if it is all just some daft blather then I hope someone who knows her tells her we would all support her - and point her in our direction!

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