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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Ministry of Justice has left Stonewall

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secular111 · 06/06/2021 10:01

Reported by The Sunday Telegraph (behind a paywall) as an exclusive, but I suspect other news outlets will pick it up soon.

Exclusive: Stonewall 'exodus' begins as Ministry of Justice officials say it has ‘lost its way’

Sources at the Ministry of Justice suggested that the decision to withdraw from the scheme was also based on concerns about Stonewall’s “dubious” training and approach to free speech. Antonia Romeo, the permanent secretary, is now reviewing the department’s diversity policy on behalf of Mr Buckland.

An MoJ source said: “It’s a shame, as this was once an organisation that did incredibly important work, but it has totally lost its way and the ministers just don’t think it’s justifiable to give Stonewall taxpayers’ money.

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Artichokeleaves · 06/06/2021 13:40

Stonewall's unlawful, discriminatory, extremist position.

Boom.

Now let's pin down

What exactly is unlawful about the position?
What exactly is discriminatory about the position?
what exactly is extremist about the position?

Where are these elements and how are they currently affecting policy, practice, staff beliefs, work culture? Particularly HR and work place provision?

What is the plan for identifying and ridding the MoJ and all other departing places of them?

We're not far now from the final point of recognition that everything Stonewall has had a hand in is compromised, and needs rooting out and re-doing from the ground up, by an employee without a history of training by SW. All policies. All training reviewed and corrected. The Lot.

Tanith · 06/06/2021 14:57

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“This is great news however someone somewhere high up needs to do a review into how Stonewall managed to infiltrate all the organisations and have so much influence. This needs to not happen again, we need checks in place.”

You’re absolutely right, but I’d want to see it expanded to investigate whether other groups have similar influence.
Government organisations especially are supposed to be impartial.

Artichokeleaves · 06/06/2021 15:02

Someone did ask on the webchat with the minister for safeguarding how they worked with government to prevent influence and regulatory capture across departments.

HQ deleted the question.

secular111 · 06/06/2021 21:57

Looking through the Wayback Archive for Stonewall's list of 'Diversity Champion's' suggests there are a few senior civil servants who will be receiving phone calls from Ministers asking why they haven't ditched Stonewall yet. I've taken those I know have left off the list, together with the Welsh organisations. The Scottish organisations like the Scottish Prison Service can probably claim that misogyny and lesbophobia is actually part of their brief and so Stonewall membership is just an expectation on them.

Babraham Institute
Cabinet Office
Civil Services Resourcing
The Coal Authority
Companies House
Competition and Markets Authority
Crown Commercial Service
Crown Prosecution Service
Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy
Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport
Department for Education
Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs
Department for Exiting the European Union
Department for International Development
Department for International Trade
Department for Work and Pensions
Department of Health
Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency
Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency
Environment Agency
Foreign & Commonwealth Office
Government Legal Department
Health & Safety Executive
Historic England
HM Land Registry
HM Revenue & Customs
HM Treasury
Home Office
House of Commons
House of Lords
Independent Office for Police Conduct
Maritime & Coastguard Agency
Ministry for Housing, Communities and Local Government
National Audit Office
National Crime Agency
Natural England
NS&I
Ofsted
Public Health England
Serious Fraud Office
The Insolvency Service
The Pensions Regulator
UK Government Investments
UK SBS (Shared Business Service)

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RedDogsBeg · 06/06/2021 23:33

All the Government Departments and the Police and NHS need to come out of the scheme now, no excuses.

Government also needs to put put a statement saying that any Public Institution, Local Government, Business or Company that is incorrectly listing the protected characteristics of the EQA using the Stonewall preferred options is at odds with the Act and furthermore toilets are segregated on the basis of sex not gender identity.

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