Conservative article on trans in women's prisons

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www.dailywire.com/news/locked-in-a-room-with-his-full-erection-women-speak-out-about-gender-laws-allowing-men-in-womens-prisons

The Conservative Woman is always very good when it comes to this kind of thing. Even though I personally happen to be the opposite of conservative.

This makes me so angry and sad for those women. They must feel so invisible. This is legally sanctioned rape, occurring in government facilities. This is where gender identity bollocks takes us. How can the people in charge justify this? The only way that can happen is if these women are viewed as sub human.

It would be interesting to see whether people convicted of racially aggravated crimes are housed with people of colour. I suspect they aren't. Only women are locked up with their convicted predators.

That is actually fucking terrifying. Sickening.

I don't know 'the daily wire' - is it conservative?

Ah, from its own description@ 'The Daily Wire is one of America’s fastest-growing conservative media companies and counter-cultural outlets for news, opinion, and entertainment.

Conceived by Ben Shapiro and Jeremy Boreing after they got fired from their last company — actually, Shapiro quit after Boreing got fired — The Daily Wire was meant to be something unique in the right-of-center media landscape — a truly self-funding business with an emphasis on distribution and marketing.'

I stopped giving a toss about the alignment of the media I consume yonks ago.

As a lifelong leftie I never thought I'd be nodding along with Breitbart and shaking my head at The Independent. But that's how fucked up the mainstream left are nowadays.

I still want to know where the media is coming from. Doesn't mean I'm not going to include it in my information pool, necessarily, but I still want to know affiliations/bias/background.

No, I agree with you. Though the alignment of the source in question is usually pretty obvious.

When I was younger I'd turn my nose up at anything to the right of The Guardian.

Now I'll happily consume anything from The Canary to The Gateway Pundit.

Daily wire is right wing, as is Ben Shapiro. But it is clearly stated and does not purport to be objective.

I think the days of non-biased press is over and that outlets can be more or less open about that bias.

I think there probably never were any days of non-biased press, really, it's just hopefully become more evident or people have become more aware of bias.

Oh look sometime trying to derail from the horrific situations facing female prisoners...

www.economist.com/united-states/2021/01/30/putting-trans-women-in-female-prisons-sets-up-a-clash-of-rights

This makes me so angry and sad for those women. They must feel so invisible. This is legally sanctioned rape, occurring in government facilities.

Yes, the people in charge of this must know that vulnerable women will be raped, and / or live in fear of rape.

You can't really blame any of the prison staff because presumably this decision was made above them, but someone has decided to sacrifice women.

In Canada, the lack of interest from the left wing media in the plight of female prisoners incarcerated with violent and sex offending male prisoners is mind-blowing. Not only does it display the misogyny of the left but in Canada there is also the question of race. First Nation women are some of the most marginalised of people in Canada, their murders and disappearances are often totally ignored by the MSM and it is really no surprise that the plight of women in prisons, a place where First Nation women are disproportionately represented is also being totally ignored.

I think the days of non-biased press is over and that outlets can be more or less open about that bias.

I tend to think that if you have different sides of the press fighting it out and trying to expose each other that has benefits. Keeps everyone more honest.

In a book published last year James Morton commented, ‘We strategized that by working
intensively with the Scottish Prison Service to support them to include trans women as
women on a self-declaration basis within very challenging circumstances, we would be able
to ensure that all other public services should be able to do likewise’.
James added, ‘the learning from our prison work has made it much easier to assist other
Scottish public services, such as NHS wards and schools’. In other words, prisons – specifically
women’s prisons - were targeted as a place to establish a policy bridgehead for self-
declaration from which it could be rolled out more generally. Not as a place cautiously to trial
and assess it before taking it further, but just to get it in place before moving on to other
providers.

James Morton is the head of Scottish Trans Alliance and helped draw up the Scottish Prisons Policy on the inclusion of transwomen in the female prison estate. As a transmen you would think that James would be advocating for transmen to go to male prisons but no such pressure has come from STA. All transmen prisoners remain in the female estate. .Needless to say the policy was drawn up without consulting female prisoners and front line staff.

It's almost like Morton had planned to give the least possible ground to examine any possible response or consequence in achieving Morton's political agenda.

And now we have to weigh up the clash of rights - the right of male sex offenders to have free access to females, and the right of female people not to have to eat, wash and sleep in a supposedly sex segregated place alongside males without privacy from them, and the right not to be harassed, intimidated, abused or assaulted by a known, convicted, serious offender who targets females.

You have to be absolutely out of your tree to think this is ok.

From the article, it sounds like prison staff are going to be in almost as vulnerable a position as female inmates.

'“female guards at Chowchilla are as upset as the inmates by the law, recognizing that men are far more violent.”

Noting that most women’s prisons don’t have “gun coverage,” “meaning officers overseeing the general population are armed only with batons and pepper spray,” current female inmate Rachelle Johnson expressed worry for women’s lives.

“They (officers) could get a gun, but they would have to go all the way to the front,” she said. “That would really be extremely too late if something was to really happen.”'

I think the Staniland question needs to be rephrased for this....

Do you think people with penises, erections and a history of violent crime should be locked up with vulnerable women?

(Replace violent crimes with committed sexual assault as relevant)

@334bu

In Canada, the lack of interest from the left wing media in the plight of female prisoners incarcerated with violent and sex offending male prisoners is mind-blowing. Not only does it display the misogyny of the left but in Canada there is also the question of race. First Nation women are some of the most marginalised of people in Canada, their murders and disappearances are often totally ignored by the MSM and it is really no surprise that the plight of women in prisons, a place where First Nation women are disproportionately represented is also being totally ignored.

I can't adequately put into words how horrific, upsetting and depressing that is.

I can't adequately put into words how horrific, upsetting and depressing that is.

It demonstrates again what actual oppression really is. Not the media friendly, urban popular to talk about kind, but the real kind.

Look for the groups who the police don't really work that hard for, and don't really have that much interest in sorting out crimes specifically against, even when the situations are extreme.

Look for the groups the press don't really bother talking about or noticing situations with them that they would be shouting from the rooftops for other groups, sometimes suppressing news that would mention that group in a way that make powerful groups look less good.

Look for the voices that don't make it into interviews or on tv, or if they do they're an unpopular minority given much less airtime and usually there to be shouted down, a token 'balance'.

Look for the groups whose resources are seen as general or enforced to be shared, because that group doesn't matter enough to have things of their own, and it's considered misbehaving on their part to argue and say that they should. Look for the groups scolded for speaking for themselves. Whose boundaries or attempts to stand up for themselves is misbehaviour.

Look for the groups the police are weaponised against in ways other groups don't experience.

Look for the groups that don't get the kid glove, sympathetic gentleness in approach from politicians, media, aren't invited as special guests to give evidence or share experiences to form policy, but are regarded as too beneath contempt to even involve in matters of policy regarding them.