teaching 0-5s about gender identity

[HDDD]

"Pride Month is all about celebrating love and friendship, and how far we've come in terms of the gay rights movement.

When it comes to explaining Pride to your child, it's best to make sure you understand its history, the facts and keep it as simple as possible. Here's our book list of recommended reads to help you and your little one aged 0-5 celebrate Pride."

wordsforlife.org.uk/activities/pride-month-book-list/

Two mums, two dads yes, the other stuff??

Why this? Genuine question. Aren’t children these days brought up knowing that uncle Fred is gay and the next door neighbours are a same sex couple (and nag aunty Jane ‘why aren’t your and aunty Mary married yet? - thanks DS)?

I remember a book in the school library corner when I was in Primary 2 about a kid with two (gay) dads. And this was in the mid 70s.

I have a couple of them on our bookshelf, but I wouldn't include the Teddy one.
Nor do I like the sound of Uncle Bobby's Wedding. Why should a child worry about not being an adult's "special person" any more because he's getting married?

I really want to know how they explained the difference between girl teddies and boy teddies in a way that wasn't either sexist or completely confusing.

@merrymouse, can't find any more details than this, but this review really makes me think it's as bad as you were anticipating. Just dreadful. (Sorry for photo of my phone - the app won't let me just upload a photo from my camera roll).

Oh hold on!

Given that I am reasonably intelligent and really struggle to understand what a gender identity is other than a conscious desire to align oneself with an outdated and dangerous sex-based stereotype, it is really hard to know how a kid under 12 or 16 could have any great understanding let alone 0-5.

How can you even start to explain a gender identity to a kid without having taught them gender stereotypes? And why would you teach them gender stereotypes any time much earlier than the point where they are being (unnecessarily) forced by society to abide by them?

I don't understand why you would introduce the idea of gender stereotypes to children who should be blissfully unaware of gender stereotypes.

Apart from anything else I think most books of this type that are intended to somehow tell children about something we adults want them to know, pretty much suck. The stories are shit.

@SmokedDuck

Apart from anything else I think most books of this type that are intended to somehow tell children about something we adults want them to know, pretty much suck. The stories are shit.

^ This.

Presumbly, it’s the same daft rubbish Lindsay Whatsaname was blethering on about in the film clip posted the other day.

I’m beginning to get a warning bell ringing every time teddies are mentioned. It’s another old fashioned stereotype: little kids love teddies.

@CatbellsQueen

Oh hold on!

That doesn't sound like introducing teddy.

It's totally about stereotypes.

To clarify; the children in the book are fine.

However the only way to explain the teddy changing from a boy to a girl is to move the bow from his neck to 'his' hair. So completely about stereotypes.

The author's father transitioned iirc.

Link to the whole teddy story

Oh sorry, cross post, multitasking

Teddy would totally confuse DS. He'd want to know what made teddy feel like a girl inside, well she just below like a girl. So she moved her bow? Yep. So does it make me a girl of I have my hair up bit not if I have it down? Well not really....

@SleepingStandingUp

Teddy would totally confuse DS. He'd want to know what made teddy feel like a girl inside, well she just below like a girl. So she moved her bow? Yep. So does it make me a girl of I have my hair up bit not if I have it down? Well not really....

DD2's teddies are very very gender fluid - one is rocking a Spiderman costume and tiara and high heels last time I checked the cesspit that is her bedroom! They're all also bloody delinquents and the cause of mischief in this house apparently.

I'm not introducing teddy bear gender norms - she has half of Build A Bear upstairs as it is without them all needing wardrobe modifications!

Captain America was dressed in the girl dolly clothes the other day but he definitely knows he's a man @CoffeeWithCheese, no gender fluid here 🤣. As does DS despite long hair and princess dresses. I do worry what some of this teaching will try and teach DS about himself. He had Dolly in Theo ink pushchair the other day. He goes to dancing not football lessons. He prefers Trolls to Marvel. Never been interested in cars. He definitely knows he's a boy.

It's always worth researching the authors of these types of children's books I find.

@merrymouse

I don't understand why you would introduce the idea of gender stereotypes to children who should be blissfully unaware of gender stereotypes.

This.

Uncle Bobby sounds like a peadophile .

Uncle Bobby’s Wedding by Sarah Brannan and Lucia Soto
Bobby and Jamie are getting married, but Bobby's niece Chloe is worried that she won't be his favorite person anymore. Will Uncle Bobby still think she is special?

I do think an uncle getting married is a mini crisis for a small person. I have heard a dc worry about a favourite aunt marrying (in that case a heterosexual marriage)

@OneEpisode

I do think an uncle getting married is a mini crisis for a small person. I have heard a dc worry about a favourite aunt marrying (in that case a heterosexual marriage)

Looking at the pages in the book it's exactly that. I think it's just the use of "special person" that causes people to 🙄

Ahh ok , it was the “special person” that sounded off.