Remains of possibly 40 women found at the house of a former police officer in El Salvador, who had been arrested and charged with the murders of a woman and her daughter earlier this month

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The 51-year-old, Hugo Ernesto Osorio Chavez, who had previously been investigated for sex crimes, admitted to killing the pair. El Salvador's director of police, Mauricio Arriaza Chicas, said Osorio Chavez was fired from the force in 2005, and may have been killing people for a decade.
Justice minister Gustavo Villatoro said the depth of the holes suggested more than one person had taken part in the burials.
At least 10 people are facing charges

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/remains-of-at-least-24-people-discovered-in-secret-burial-site-at-home-of-former-police-officer/ar-AAKdLP3?

There are no words...

I came here to see if this had been posted.
Absolutely awful.

. Horrific.

Not sure I want to read that article.

@Lowhum

I came here to see if this had been posted. Absolutely awful.

I searched for it and couldn't find it so then, as I'm quite new here, thought maybe it was the wrong place or I'm using a disreputable source or something. But yes, I think it's shocking

Well, unfortunately it's not as shocking as it should be

Oh god. I vaguely thought I knew about this case before I opened the thread. But no, I was thinking of a different case in Mexico, where they’ve arrested a 72 year old serial killer and can’t even guess yet at the number of (female) victims.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/mexican-police-bones-woman-death-b1851714.html%3famp

This has happened twice in the last few days.

@awesomekillick

Well, unfortunately it's not as shocking as it should be

No. Mexico is a very dangerous place to be a woman

And not surprised either...

Made me think of that bloke in Canada with the pig farm who police didn't look at for years because of who the victims were.

And more locally. Police had been told to check a certain cafe. Years ago. Documentary team goes in all this time later and they're excavating.

It's not this country or that county. Yes it's way worse in some than others. But in the end, same dynamics.

I don't think the police really got interested in Sutcliffe until he started killing women who weren't prostitutes.

John warboys offended for years after they had his reg etc because... Not interested.

The met had a good opportunity to catch one of their own when he committed a sex offence that screamed escalation. But didn't.

Etc etc etc etc.

I'm not surprised.

I'm thinking of the women and their families.

It's el Salvador not Mexico from the reports.

They have a no abortion full stop law. Not even to save the mother's life.

Women are in prison for miscarrying.

Women's lives don't matter. Is the bottom line.

'In 1997, the Nationalist Republican Alliance (ARENA) submitted a draft bill, designed to amend the Penal Code to withdraw all grounds under which abortion was then permitted. On April 25, 1997, the Legislative Assembly voted 61 out of 84 to approve this modification to the Code.[2]

On April 20, 1998, the new Penal Code was enacted, removing the exceptions that had been instituted in 1973, including the provision for the pregnant woman's life. Under this Code, a person who performs an abortion with the woman's consent, or a woman who self-induces or consents to someone else inducing her abortion, can be imprisoned for two to eight years. A person who performs an abortion to which the woman has not consented can be sentenced to four to ten years in jail; if the person is a physician, pharmacist, or other health care worker, he or she is instead subject to between six and 12 years.[1]

El Salvador also amended its Constitution in January 1999 to recognize human life from the moment of conception.[2]'

El Salvador not Mexico

I created the confusion by leaving out a comma upthread! The case in the OP is in El Salvador. There was an extremely similar event in the last few days, in Mexico.

Who were the people helping with the burials?

What can anyone say about this horror?

Nothing to be said.

RIP to all the women and girls.

I created the confusion by leaving out a comma upthread! The case in the OP is in El Salvador. There was an extremely similar event in the last few days, in Mexico.

Femicide is endemic in Mexico and Central America, particularly.

Yes, its effectively illegal to miscarry in El Salvador, and women are tried and imprisoned for doing so. Things aren't great for women there.

I'm now looking at Texas with it's new ban on abortion post 6 weeks and waiting for them to start arresting women who miscarry - that would never happen of course. Right?

Closer to home, I remember that the police tried to put a curfew on WOMEN when a man would murdering them, rather than putting a curfew on men and we're only just done away with the "sex game gone wrong" defence which made murder legal as long as you raped her first.

@allmywhat

El Salvador not Mexico

I created the confusion by leaving out a comma upthread! The case in the OP is in El Salvador. There was an extremely similar event in the last few days, in Mexico.

Nah, 'twas me being dozy last night!

(Name change btw.)

Awful story. Those poor women and girls.

and we're only just done away with the "sex game gone wrong" defence which made murder legal as long as you raped her first.

OMG - I had never thought about it like that - but yes, that’s exactly it!

Bastards - the lot of them.

I just feel helpless reading about things like this.

and we're only just done away with the "sex game gone wrong" defence which made murder legal as long as you raped her first

And then you have www.justiceforwomen.org.uk/news/2021/5/21/coercive-control-victim-farieissia-martin-judge-imposes-severe-sentence-for-the-manslaughter-ofnbspher-violent-partner-requiring-her-to-spend-additional-time-in-custody

Women's lives appear to be distressingly disposable.

Yes fair point thinking about it though lots of mens are as well.

The drivers/ circs etc are very different though.

Which is why women being killed is most definitely a women's issue and needs to be discussed separately.

And the it's a people issue can just bugger off.

Oh god:(

Not surprising though given how shit things are for women there.

So awful

Just had a look at cedaw's concluding observations on its periodic report for El Salvador - sobering reading. But absolutely agree with PPs - women are deemed expendable everywhere.