Blocked by Stonewall

[rabbitwoman]

I engaged quite a lot with the recent tweet from Stonewall about their open letter to the EHRC. Yes, I was critical of them and their refusal to move forward and talk to LGB Alliance, amongst others.

I gained a few new followers, one of my tweets got about 50 likes - not exactly viral, but a record for me! I noticed that there was a lot of critism of them, their tactics, their ideology, but much of it intelligent and evidence based. Of course, there was a lot of name calling and accusations and lies, but definitely not from me and pretty much all from one 'side', as it were....

Surely a learning opportunity for them? A chance to look and see what people really think and why? But I was absolutely astonished to see that Stonewall have blocked me.

This has not hurt my feelings, but Stonewall are a publicly funded organisation, which is hoping to influence government policy, which comes into our schools to give training, and they are UNABLE to engage with the public? Or at the very keadt, read and absorb some robust criticism!?

The EHRC social media manager will have had a similar experience after their tweet about their new CEO, I would be similarly aghast if they had gone through twitter blocking all discenting voices - but I bet they haven't.

It has just confirmed my opinion of Stonewall, quite frankly....

Childish fingers in ears lalalalal response.

See other current threads though, I think they're getting rattled.

I expect they've blocked loads of people for asking reasonable questions about their practice. The walls are closing in on them that's for sure. You can still view their tweets if you log out of twitter. (There's no hiding really is there stonewall)

Because they wish to exist in an echo chamber. Similar to when Gordon Brown took to the streets to talk to ‘ordinary people’ and accused some lady of being racist/a bigot. Stonewall has decided that an dissection is coming from ‘hateful bigots’ who deserve no platform. Hence blocking you.

*any dissension

This has not hurt my feelings, but Stonewall are a publicly funded organisation, which is hoping to influence government policy, which comes into our schools to give training, and they are UNABLE to engage with the public? Or at the very keadt, read and absorb some robust criticism!?

There are (or were, I assume its still the case) actual elected MPs with large blocklists on twitter, simply for disagreeing with them. I remember around the 'womans officer' time, a lot of women were saying that they were blocked by their own area MPs, which seems ridiculous

Honestly, I would probably take stonewall blocking me as a good thing. Given how homophobic and misogynistic they are these days.

They've blocked loads of us, me included. Nancy Kelly is getting a lot of traction on her twitter account now, so not a good move really. Until Nancy blocks us all of course.

It's a disgrace.

You know, I listened today to Nancy Kelly being interviewed on 'what the trans' today.

'trans kids aren't allowed to be who they are at school' - how, Nancy? What does that look like?

'trans people face the worst prejudice in society' - how? Who from? From the NHS, police, or the kind of idiots who will harass anyone?

'we are fighting for trans rights' - but what rights are those, Nancy? The right to do what? What protections? What are you fighting for that trans people don't have?

Nothing definite, nothing concrete, no examples.

When you listen to Posey Parker, Graham Linehan, the mighty Magdalen Burns, there is substance, evidence and examples, real issues.... Even in the most sympathetic interview on the most sympathetic platform, Nancy could not really articulate what Stonewall actually WANTS for the transgender community.

And I think that's because all Stonewall wants for trans women is access to women's spaces. That's all. That's the goal. Really, because they already have all the other rights and protections.

And they can't even include trans men in that because secretly everyone knows there is no place for trans men in men's prisons, sports or even loos!!!

Wow rabbitwoman. You nailed it. That makes it so clear.
Every now and then I ask myself if I'm missing something in all this. Surely there must be some real injustice at the root of all this. Some missing rights, protections. But there aren't.

rabbitwoman 💯

To get the full house you need to be blocked by Stonewall, Owen Jones & Jolyon Maugham.

I'm got the full house!

Oh and Mermaids and Mimmymum

..... but don't they want to know what we are saying? Don't they want to know what questions we are asking, so they can get answers ready? Don't they want to know what evidence we have?

See, everyone I speak to, whether it be in real life or online, pretty much agrees with JKR..... But according to Nancy Kelly that is a minority opinion...... I can't see it, where does she see it?

What is the point of twitter if you just build an impenetrable echo chamber? That's what WhatsApp is for, on Twitter you discuss and swap info and interact with new people, otherwise why put anything out there!?

Full House here too!!

I’ve got Mermaids & Mimmymum too! SET!!!!!!!

Looks to me like they cocked up by making their organisation homophobic, and entirely unable to define the people are meant to be advocating for, and now they're stuck.

If you can't describe your stance, then you don't have a hope in hell of justifying it.

They have never, as far as I'm aware, answered any questions about how they can be advocating for LG and B, when the T undermines the lot.

And now the questions aren't going away.