Interesting Heather Brunskell-Evans interview

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Just been watching a fascinating interview with Heather Brunskell-Evans. Her versus Benjamin Boyce, she seems to have gone on mainly wanting to push back against Lindsay & Pluckrose's Cynical Theories.

Certainly an interesting take going down some slightly less well-trodden roads. I've watched a lot of GC stuff and a lot of anti-Woke stuff, and this gave me quite a lot of new things to think about.

She turns out to be something of a centrist - lots of us know she's 100% pro-women's rights and firmly involved in the gender critical fight, but she's also a Foucault scholar and wants to push back against the Cynical Theories view of his work, as she sees value in it.

And then she's talking about using Foucault's tools to attack genderism, rather than to support it.

Plus also some interesting discussion about what we mean by "patriarchy".

These interviews where you've only partial alignment between someone who is mainly "anti-Woke" and someone who is more "pro-women+GC" are always fascinating, because there's a certain amount of tension. The "anti-Woke" is inclined to see the "pro-women" as dangerously close to "identity politics"...

Check it out:

But women benefit as a whole from having a range of occupations open to us all.

Plus, we also work for individual fulfilment - just like men are allowed to.

Yes, of course we benefit from work opportunities, but there is an additional benefit to women getting to the top in professions where they can improve services for women.

We need to do something about male violence too, obviously, but we also need to make it clear to the vast majority of men, who are not violent, that co-parenting is their responsibility too.

If between a quarter and a third of women have experienced DV, the vast majority of men are not non-violent.

I don't know if it is just me but I didn't find the interview to be very accessible or illuminating. I have noticed with a few of Boyce's interviews, there seems to be talking around the point but not really directly on the point.

I don't know if it is just me but I didn't find the interview to be very accessible or illuminating.

I don't think it's just you - it was coming in a bit deep, and rather assumed you were already familiar with a lot of the anti-Woke stuff and discussion around Foucault. I'm actually not terribly sure what I took away from it - but I found it interesting while it was on :)

The Will Malone interview WarriorN mentioned above was probably more of an overall success, and more relevant to most people, I think.

I listened to this earlier this year. She covers some interesting ground:
savageminds.substack.com/p/misunderstanding-michel-foucault

I haven't read this thread - sorry. But I wanted to drop in to say I thought it was a great interview. Heather is a thinker/philosopher and a scholar of Foucault so really interesting to hear her talk. She seems to me to have people's interests at heart. I really enjoyed this - thanks.