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CaSurvivor of Prostitution Fired From Women’s Shelter Over Feminist Views

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stumbledin · 17/05/2021 18:50

In February of 2020, just as the COVID-19 pandemic was reaching Canada, a large Montreal women’s agency fired Valérie Pelletier because of allegedly “transphobic” posts on her personal Facebook account. In an interview with Plebity, Pelletier, a survivor of the sex industry, shared her story publicly for the first time after first attempting to seek justice through the Canadian court system. ...

Pelletier describes being called in to speak to the Human Resources Director — a man. “We’ve received two emails with screen-captures of your activism online, and it’s very transphobic,” he told her. “This is incompatible with our values.”

While she was never shown which posts in particular were in question, Pelletier regularly made posts advocating for the protection of single-sex spaces. She says she never posted about her employer, did not claim to be speaking on their behalf, or used aggressive or violent language. ...

When she tried to explain why she advocated for single-sex spaces, Pelletier claims the man chided her, stating, “Trans women are women.” ...

4w.pub/canadian-survivor-of-prostitution-fired-from-womens-shelter-over-feminist-views/

And for those who think there are too many repetitive threads on FWR I would love not to have to post links to articles about women being sacked for believing in the biological reality of sex, let alone by a "feminist" organisation.

So the thread is as much to recognise what this has cost Valérie Pelletier and that the law and equality rights did not stand up for her.

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SunnydaleClassProtector99 · 17/05/2021 19:00

In her time at the women’s agency, Pelletier says she saw four different men taking beds for extended periods of time at the women’s shelter, which turns down between 10 - 12 women per day on average. One of the men who took a woman’s spot, she claims, wasn’t even trans-identified.

“They are literally occupying women’s spaces,” she said. “The reason why I defend this is because I feel women deserve sex-specific services and they’re being eroded.”

This stood out. It never happens. Hmm

stumbledin · 17/05/2021 19:16

I read that and sort of thought this cant really be happening. How do those who are running the project, for women, not feel that this is not right.

I suppose part of it is many refuges / shelters that were started by feminists who operated on the basis of their politics rather than being "trained professionals" wouldn't have thought twice.

But somebody employed for their experience (were there really no qualified applications from women for the post of HR) just operate on a rules based basis.

Maybe future adverts should saying "No empathy required".

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FlyPassed · 18/05/2021 08:29

I hope she sues the arse off them!

My local shelter, it's run by two old school, 70s feminists who definitely know what a woman is. But they also have younger staff with pronouns in their signatures, and pressure from the council to serve males (all male people not just trans idenitifed ones) in order to secure funding. This is in the name of "inclusivity" but also to keep costs down.

So it's like a pincer movement with pressure from woke graduates on one side and funders on the other. And to hell with the women who need the refuge.

I really fear for the female service users. It's only a matter of time before the younger staff age up the hierarchy and who will prioritise women then?

SunsetBeetch · 18/05/2021 08:57

This is so disgusting.

OhRene · 18/05/2021 09:20

When she tried to explain why she advocated for single-sex spaces, Pelletier claims the man chided her, stating, “Trans women are women.” ...

I think out of everything, a man saying this shit annoys me more than anything else. No fucking way would 99.9% of these completely unaffected (therefore no horse in this race) men be okay if a woman they were dating suddenly pulled out her lady penis while they were getting down to business for the first time. The so called woke fuckers would be out of there like a shot.

TWAW... but only when it affects that unimportant subset of women they've reclassified as cis-women.

Eyesofdisarray · 18/05/2021 10:51

Hmm. Interesting how a natal male can be a CEO of a refuge but a natal female can be fired for standing up for women
Funny that
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stumbledin · 18/05/2021 11:55

FlyPassed - I think the problem is she tried every conventional route to get redress and nobody supported her. So this is why she has now gone public. From the article:

... Pelletier tried to fight back against her firing, first submitting a complaint with the Canadian Human Rights Commission. The complaint was initially received, but her case was passed around to three different agents over the course of a year. Eventually, they stopped responding to her altogether. When she tried to take her former employer to small claims court, they scheduled a “negotiation meeting” just to tell her they wouldn’t negotiate. Now, she’s involved in ongoing litigation in an attempt to hold them accountable.

Canadian employment law requires employers to provide at least two weeks written notice of their intent to terminate an employee, or otherwise to provide two weeks of wages, except in cases in which the employee is fired for cause. ...

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stumbledin · 18/05/2021 11:55

Again, from the article:

... On Saturday, Plebity announced that Pelletier was the latest recipient of a grant from the Free Speech Fund, an initiative co-founded by Sasha White after she was fired, herself, for social media posts criticizing gender identity ideology. The Fund aims to organize the masses to resist “cancel culture” by providing material support to those who face economic consequences for exercising their right to freedom of speech.

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