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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The upcoming trial of Valérie Bacot

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NutellaEllaElla · 16/05/2021 07:21

Will anyone be keeping an eye on this? The plight the poor woman went through her WHOLE fucking life. It's amazing that she is alive, unlike so many others.
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/819e560e-b4e8-11eb-8f2a-87b6de480dfc?shareToken=d915ffd1d99cb2a8f1ccd7c843b30fdf

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Monicuddle · 16/05/2021 07:52

Bloody hell. The police who ignored her children and everyone else who let her down should be on trial first. How tragic that she herself thinks she should be in jail.

UppityPuppity · 16/05/2021 08:24

Bloody hell. The police who ignored her children and everyone else who let her down should be on trial first. How tragic that she herself thinks she should be in jail.

Yes. Agreed.

Funny how women are always blamed for being murdered ‘she was having an affair...’ ‘she told him she was about to leave him...’ etc, AND blamed when they respond to a lifetime of male abuse, which the authorities should have protected them from.

The responsibility of the man not to be an arsehole is not presented in the same way.

How about the French focusing on the lifetime of criminality against this woman. If he was a decent man, he would still be alive.

midgedude · 16/05/2021 08:43

Sick.

Whatwouldscullydo · 16/05/2021 08:55

That poor woman Sad

NutellaEllaElla · 16/05/2021 09:08

Absolutely, the police majorly fucked up, letting her down, her children and society as a whole frankly.

Also agree that if he wasn't, what, a paedophile, pimp and abuser basically treating her like a slave? Then of course, this wouldn't have happened. I don't know what else the police/state would expect given her life, options, power and control.

It's so awful.

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NutellaEllaElla · 16/05/2021 09:09

No wanting to blame anyone other than the husband - but what about her mother as well? There was a real sense of powerlessness from her as well. So sad.

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ArabellaScott · 16/05/2021 09:25

I am usually ambivalent about these cases - I'm not keen on lending support for anyone taking someone's life. So I clicked thinking I would not be able to support her.

After reading that - she should walk free, and receive a pardon, absolutely, but also she should be helped to rebuild her life with her children. 100%. Good luck to her.

Bacot was eventually denounced to the police, apparently by the mother of her daughter’s boyfriend. And shame on this woman.

NutellaEllaElla · 16/05/2021 09:27

Yeah I thought that! Why would she report her to the police?! Is it possible that she didn't know? It's hard to believe.

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Heidi1982 · 16/05/2021 09:28

It looks like France are about 30 years behind the UK.

The Courts here eventually recognised cases like thIs, as being self defense and therefore not murder, in cases like that of Sara Thornton.

Several women were found to have been wrongly convicted of murder.

More recently Sally Challen was able to argue she had diminished responsibility as a result of the abuse and so had a partial defence to murder.

The French legal system needs to take a good look at itself.

inigomontoyahwillcox · 16/05/2021 11:27

Bacot was eventually denounced to the police, apparently by the mother of her daughter’s boyfriend. And shame on this woman.

Yes indeed, shame on her. My first though when I read that was, "I bet she was perceived in the community as trouble, a woman with 'low morals' and someone to be wary of".

This poor poor woman was let down by so many people, and yes, I'll say it, she showed such bravery for standing up to him for the safety of both herself and her children (her adolescent daughter in particular). I mean, where else did she have left to turn? The police certainly weren't going to come to their rescue.

MissBarbary · 16/05/2021 11:46

@NutellaEllaElla

No wanting to blame anyone other than the husband - but what about her mother as well? There was a real sense of powerlessness from her as well. So sad.
Powerlessness? I read it as complicity/ lack of interest. She has been let down by everyone- starting with her mother.
MissBarbary · 16/05/2021 11:49

Bacot was eventually denounced to the police, apparently by the mother of her daughter’s boyfriend.And shame on this woman

Er, no. That's the start of vigilante justice. The French system appears to be decades behind the UK system on this type of crime but that still doesn't justify turning a blind eye to murder.

PomegranateQueen · 16/05/2021 12:00

That man should have been out of her life when she was 12. She has been failed by so many people and now she is being failed again, she should recieve a pardon.

NutellaEllaElla · 16/05/2021 17:10

Yes, powerlessness was the wrong word...Passivity of neglect are more appropriate.

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SunsetBeetch · 16/05/2021 17:11

@PomegranateQueen

That man should have been out of her life when she was 12. She has been failed by so many people and now she is being failed again, she should recieve a pardon.
Agreed. What an awful story.
WarriorN · 16/05/2021 18:07

My god that poor woman and her children.

StillFemale · 16/05/2021 18:30

That poor woman, those poor children. Let down by everyone

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